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Apr-08-05 | | Pawsome: 8...Nd7?? is a blunder. 8 ... Nc2+ 9. Kd1 Qc8 10. Qf7+ Kd8 11. g4 Na1 12. gf5 ef 13. Nc3 a6 14. d4 Be7 15. cd cd 16. Bd5 Rf8 17 Nc6+ Qc6 18 Qf8 Bf8 19. Bc6 is unclear. There are lots of branches to this line of course, but they're all better than the route chosen by Taimanov. |
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Apr-08-05 | | Kangaroo: To < Pawsome >
If (as you suggested)
8 ... Nc2+ 9. Kd1 Qc8 10. Qf7+ Kd8,
then instead of a rather weird and exotic 11. g4 White has a stronger option: 11. Nxc6+ (winning) -
notice the black Knight had moved from b4 to c2 already! |
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Apr-09-05 | | Boomie: Taimanov missed the refutation of 7. ♕xb7
7. ♕xb7 ♘c5 8. ♕xc6+ ♘fd7 9. b4 ♖c8 10. ♕b5 ♖b8 |
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Apr-09-05 | | Minor Piece Activity: Good find Boomie, but note that White has a stronger resource than 9. b4. Instead, 9. cxd5 Rc8 10. d4 Ne4 (the queen still cannot escape because of Rxc1) 11. o-o Rxc6 12. dxc6 Ndf6 13. Nbd2 and black is better, but white has strong practical chances with the passed pawn. |
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Apr-09-05 | | Boomie: Hi, Minor Piece Activity
12...♘b6 is better in your line. One possibility is: 12. dxc6 ♘b6 13. ♖d1 ♗e7 14. h3 ♗d6 15. ♘h4 ♕c7 16. ♘xf5 exf5 17. d5 O-O Black is ahead in material and in development. It's hard to find any continuation for white. |
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Apr-24-05 | | Pawsome: <Boomie> Hold on. < Kangaroo:
<If as you suggested
8 ... Nc2+ 9. Kd1 Qc8 10. Qf7+ Kd8,
then instead of a rather weird and exotic 11. g4 White has a stronger option: 11. Nxc6+ (winning) - > to which black replies 11....Qxc6 winning, since his knight has moved to c2, as you observed, and will now pick up the rook. Cheers. |
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Apr-25-05 | | Pawsome: <Boomie> <Taimanov missed the refutation of 7. xb7 7. Qxb7 Nc5 8. Qxc6+ Nfd7 9. b4 Rc8 10. Qb5 Rb8> I think Kasparov would have chosen 9.Nc3 and if then Rc8 10, Qd6 dc 11.Nd4 refuting the refutation. |
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Oct-19-05 | | alexandrovm: At this final position, black is playable? |
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Oct-19-05 | | aw1988: Sorry, but was this a simul? Taimanov doesn't get crushed so easily... |
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Oct-19-05
 | | beatgiant: <alexandrovm: At this final position, black is playable?>
I doubt it. After 14...Rc8 15. Bxc6+ Rxc6 16. Qxc6+, Black's knight on a1 is trapped and White can soon pick it off with b3 and Bb2, etc. |
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Oct-20-05 | | alexandrovm: thanks <beatgiant>. I really don't know <aw1988> |
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Oct-09-07 | | White Star: 8)...Rb8 9) Qxa7...Ra8 is a forced draw since the Q cannot escape along the a7/e3 diagonal because of the N fork on c2! Against Kasparov, that is what I would have done |
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Oct-09-07 | | Kangaroo: <<White Star>: 8)...Rb8 9) Qxa7...Ra8 is a forced draw since ...> It is NOT!!! After <8 ... Rb8> - that is what you would have played against Kasparov - the obvious <9. Qxf7#> would follow! |
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Mar-19-08 | | TheCap: The big blunder is
11. ... dxe4 ??
If instead
11. ... Rc8
or
11. ... Qc8
black looks at least even
also
7. ... Nb4 looks significantly weaker than
7. ... Nc5
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Jun-10-08 | | artyom2008: you just goattaaaa see this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kasparov vs G West, 1977 |
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Jun-10-08 | | artyom2008: its in kasparovs quikest wins |
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May-27-09 | | vonKrolock: <6.♕b5+> Or 6.♕xb7 ♘b4 7.♘d4 ♖b8 8.♕xa7 ♖a8 draw, as in Palatnik-Dolmatov, Hradec Kralove 1981 - so, in other words: to take at once in 'b7' is a draw offer for black... <7.♕xb7> That line already showed by <♗oomie> above looks fine 7... ♘c5 8. ♕xc6+ ♘fd7 9. b4 ♖c8 10. ♕b5 ♖b8 <8.♘e5> Now the threat of ♕xf7++ is compelling enough, but not a decisive combination! <8...♘d7> Or maybe better 8...♗g6 <10...♘xa1>? ♕c8!
<11.e4>?! ♘e5!
<11...dxe4>??
<12.♘e5>! And now white is really winning... Of course this was not a tournament game... |
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Feb-22-10 | | hstevens129: A great tactician at work. |
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Jan-11-11 | | jmboutiere: 7...Nc5 8.Qc6 Nfd7 9.b4 Rc8 10.Qb5 Rb8 11.Qc6 - 0.78 Rybka 3 |
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Jan-11-11 | | jmboutiere: 11...Rc8 better than 11...de4, but insufficient
final position 14...Rc8 15.Bc6 Rc6 16.Qc6 Qd7 17.Qd7 Kd7 18.b3 Bc5 19.Bb2 |
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Sep-26-11
 | | HeMateMe: Age 15. Taimonov beaten in 14 moves. |
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Apr-22-15
 | | Honza Cervenka: Poisoned pawn eaten, poisoner beaten!:-) |
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Nov-01-18 | | MrJafari: It seems Rc8 can still keep Black on the game although one piece behind... |
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Mar-29-20
 | | HeMateMe: 14 moves. Perhaps Taimonov should have retired. |
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Mar-29-20 | | Olavi: Is this perhaps a blitz game, recorded for posterity. Neither player played a tournament in Moscow in 1978 or anywhere else together. |
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