Daniel King vs Raymond Keene (1982)

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Daniel King vs Raymond Keene
Club competition (1982), London ENG
Formation: King's Indian Attack (A07) · 0-1

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Annotations by Raymond Keene. [405 more games annotated by Keene]

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Apr-09-05		Gypsy: < Zaius: ... I am not familiar with over the board manners. What is the purpose of announcing "mate in three"?> The way I understand it, once there was an unwritten honor code that if a mate-in-n was anounced then the purpose of further play (slash post mortem) was to let the mating mechanism shine in the best possible light. That commonly required play all the way to mate along the longest line, but sometimes to resign right after the star move, or at the right fork where equally delightful patterns appeared in several branches. That era is gone, of course. Anouncing a mate-in-n is showmanship for sure. It can be a quite scary form of showmanship. One can end up with a good size egg on his or her face if the mate-in-3 turns out to be a mate-in-5 or, perish the thought, a piece-up endgame. In such a case the losing side rightfully gains a moral victory. And when you ever hear this exchange: "Check, and ... erh ... mate-in-n!" .... "Hmmm ... OK, I guess you will have to show it to me -- Rxf3," you know the bragging stakes are high.

Apr-09-05		Gypsy: Here is how Pachman describes an anounced mate in a tournament deciding game (Alekhine vs K Junge, 1942): <In the last round Alekhine played Klaus, their game was to decide it all. Junge was a whole point up and the world champion had to win. It was one of his grand games. First he sacrifaced a pawn, then exchange. And, suddenly he anounced a mate-in-7! I got very excited and started to explain to other spectators which moves will lead to the mate. An organizer rushed over and wanted to kick me out of the tournament hall...>

Apr-09-05		aw1988: Very nice annotations by Keene. I myself have had the pleasure of announcing mate in 12, but white's moves (I was black obviously) where the only legal ones, so it wasn't hard.

Feb-16-06		who: <ray keene> What would you have played against 30.Nf1 (supposedly Larsen said you can never be mated with a knight on KB1).

Feb-16-06		ray keene: <who> either ---rf8 or f3 at once-what does fritz say?

Feb-16-06		ajile: The King's Indian Reversed (or attack?) seems very slow as White. I'm guessing that Black can equalize rather easily with accurate play. Maybe White is hoping Black will make a mistake and overextend his position?

Feb-16-06		who: <ray> It thinks the position is dead even.

Feb-16-06		ray keene: <who> i seem to recall i was thinking primarily of playing --f3 expecting something like qxf3 rf8 qg2 bh5 ng3 bf3 qh2 qf4 with the plan of ---r-f6 of course fritz is the master of defending lost causes so there may be a way out for white which i had not seen.the whole attack was played very much on instinct rather than calculation--i hardly calculated the sacrifice--re6 at all, i just thought it had to be right

Feb-18-06		who: At first Fritz thinks that after your line 30...f3 31. qxf3 rf8 32. qg2 bh5 33. ng3 bf3 34. qh2 qf4 35. Rxa7! White's better because of threats of Ra8+ but eventually it decides that the position is equal.

Feb-18-06		who: And then with a bit more time it sees that actually it's black that's winning.

Feb-19-06		ray keene: <who> thanks for your confirmation!

Feb-20-06		gus inn: once a danish IM announced mate in 5... whereas it turned out that he , himself, was mated in 7 ! .. :)

Feb-20-06		aragorn69: <gus inn> Could you provide the game/position, please? That would make for a fine chess anecdote, if true of course.

Jun-15-11		Oginschile: I like to announce mate at the beginning of every game, it gives the odds-makers an over-under.

Feb-17-12		Cibator: GM Keene won this one impressively, despite even having his own favourite move (Nh1) played against him!!

Mar-05-13		Jonathan Sarfati: It's most instructive to see such a flank-opening pioneer as GM Keene show how to play against them as well.

Sep-30-13		phil6875: Ray, that line you gave if White plays 30. Nf1 does indeed seem to be a draw. 30. Nf1 f3 31. Qxf3 Rf8 32. Qg2 Bh5 33. Ng3 Bf3 34. Qh2 Qf4 35. Rxa7 Rf6 36. Ra8+ Bb8 37. e5 Rh6 38. Rxb8+ Kf7 39. Qg2 Bxg2 40.Kxg2 Rh2+ 41. Kxh2 Qxf2+ 42. Kh3 Qxe1 43. b6 Qa5 =

Jan-04-15		MissScarlett: <The King is dead; long live the Keene!>

Jan-04-15		whiteshark: He was really keene to win the King.

Aug-28-16		TheTamale: Fun game, and nice annotations.

Oct-14-22		ray keene: Another of my 55 exchange sacs. Not quite as many as Petrosian who notched up 124.

Oct-16-22		Retireborn: Occasion/tournament of this game?

Oct-16-22		ray keene: Club competition . I was playing for The Kings Head. I don’t recall which competition or which club Danny was representing.

Oct-17-22		Retireborn: Thanks Ray, much appreciated.

Oct-17-22		stone free or die: <<rk> I don’t recall which competition or which club Danny was representing.> Most likely King was playing for <Streatham & Brixton CC>, as there is mention of his involvement with the club, as a junior, by Botterill in his 1983 <British Chess> book. Cf. https://books.google.com/books?newb... (p99)

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