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Bedrich Thelen vs Frantisek Treybal
"I've Got a Thelen" (game of the day May-27-2020)
Prague Evony (1927), Prague CSR, rd 10, May-??
Queen's Gambit Declined: Orthodox Defense. Main Line (D63)  ·  1-0

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Sep-02-04
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  Gypsy: <is he a member of his family?> Karel's brother.
Sep-23-04
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  patzer2: As Gypsy notes above, the position after 47. Kh2 is an excellent example of Zugzwang. Black is compelled to move and all moves lose (e.g. 47...Kf7 48. Bxf8+ loses to a double attack and 47...Qa7 48. Qc6 brings decisive pressure to bear on the pinned Bishop).
Sep-23-04
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  kevin86: A zugzwang position from move 41-47,after which ♔f7 is forced-allowing for ♗xe8+
Oct-26-05
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  patzer2: On second thought White's 40. Rc8! initiates this zuzwang position ending in a winning double attack after the decoy 48. Bxe8+!
Jun-14-06  slavito2: 47. Kf7 was wrong move. He could've moved the queen.
May-16-07  Judah: Gypsy's post explains the problem with that: he needs the queen where she is to stop White from playing Qc6, winning the bishop.
May-27-20  jith1207: To give credit where it's due, I've seen this pun coined or made famous by Deion Sanders calling NFL's Adam Thielen so.

It's, of course, a word play on the song "I've got a feeling" by Beatles.

May-27-20  jith1207: As for the pun relation to the game, it's just a tribute to Pachman analysis posted by <Gypsy> in '04 about this game being an example of <Phycological Trap>.
May-27-20  jith1207: The move I really like the most in this game though, more than all of the candidates mentioned in the analysis above, is <46.Kh1> to complete Zugzwang, even as there are other moves to do the same.
May-27-20  hdcc: Have you got a thelen there's going to be treybal?
May-27-20  Brenin: Does anyone know the source of Pachman's analysis of this game, quoted by <Gypsy>? Modern Chess Strategy? As a young lad I treated Pachman's opening series Modern Chess Theory as my bible.
May-27-20  offramp: <jith1207: ...It's, of course, a word play on the song "I've got a feeling" by Beatles.>

You would get more bums on seats if it were a pun on the Black-Eyed Peas song.

May-27-20  jith1207: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<For some people, black-eyed peas may cause stomach pain, gas, and bloating due to their content of raffinose, a type of fiber that can contribute to digestive issues>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
May-27-20  jith1207: <hdcc: Have you got a thelen there's going to be treybal?>

Sounds <Frantisek> .... :)

May-27-20
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  Diademas: Very reminiscent of Saturday's GOTD D Rensch vs T Abrahamyan, 2010
May-27-20  jith1207: <Brenin>: <Gypsy>'s game collection below seems to suggest it is indeed modern Chess strategy from Pachman.

<Diademas: Very reminiscent of Saturday's GOTD>: Everytime I see a game like this, I'm reminded of wonderful game collections created by <CG> members.

May-27-20  takchess: A Thelen deep inside , Oh Yeah .....
May-27-20
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  OhioChessFan: <Guess Who: I think it's a good point to say a pun, which suggests a certain occurrence in the game, should be expected to be close enough. >

Ummmmmmm....I guess I'm missing something here.

May-27-20  jith1207: Ha ha.. well, at least it doesn't promise anything in the game. :)
May-27-20
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  OhioChessFan: I couldn't resist.

Puns are here to stay. Some great puns are attached to awful games. I don't see why people flip out over that.

May-27-20  jith1207: And, my position on pun is that you have fun with GOTD titles...

If someone really likes the emphasis on game more than pun, they should lead by example and talk about the game more rather than complaining about the pun.

Too much talk about Title of a game here sometimes, in the PRETENSION that game should be emphasized more... Well, if you don't like, find something interesting with the game or find an interesting Chess game or forum to discuss favorite topic. No big deal.

May-27-20  ajile: Interesting game.
May-27-20  RandomVisitor: Stockfish often determines that positions are more complicated than they seem, for example

After 15...Be8


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Stockfish_20052313_x64_modern:

<48/61 27:45 +0.54 16.g3> a5 17.a3 g6 18.Ne4 Qc7 19.Rfe1 Rd8 20.Qc2 Kg7 21.h4 Nf6 22.Qc3 Qb6 23.Nxf6 Bxf6 24.Rcd1 h5 25.Rd2 Qc7 26.Rc1 Qb6 27.Rcd1 Qa7 28.Bc2 Rh8 29.Bb1 Rf8 30.Qe3 Rh8 31.Nf3 Rf8 32.Bc2 Qb6 33.Rc1 Kh7 34.Be4 Bg7 35.Qc3 Kg8

After 20...a5


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Stockfish_20052313_x64_modern:

<46/65 04:27 +0.83 21.Bd1> Qd6 22.h3 Bxe5 23.fxe5 Qb6 24.Rdc2 Bd7 25.Qd2 Rac8 26.Bh5 Rxc2 27.Rxc2 Bc6 28.Rc3 Qb4 29.a3 Qb6 30.Be2 Ra8 31.Kh2 Rc8 32.Rc5 a4 33.Qc3 Kh7 34.Kg1 Ra8 35.Qd2 Kg8 36.Qb4 Qd8 37.Rc3 Rc8 38.Bd1 Ra8 39.Bh5 Qh4 40.Bg6 Qg5

After 28.h3


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Stockfish_20052313_x64_modern:

<49/49 03:59 0.00 28...Rfc8 29.Kh2 Rc1> 30.Rxc1 Rxc1 31.Re2 Rc7 32.Qg1 Bg6 33.Qf2 a4 34.g4 Rc6 35.Bc2 Bh7 36.Rd2 Rc4 37.Kg2 Kf7 38.Bd3 Rc1 39.Rc2 Rxc2 40.Qxc2 Qxd4 41.Qc7+ Kf8 42.Qd8+ Kf7 43.Qd7+ Kf8 44.Qxe6 Qxd3 45.Qd6+ Ke8 46.Qb8+ Kf7 47.Qxb7+ Ke6 48.Qc6+ Ke7 49.Qc7+ Kf8 50.Qd8+ Kf7 51.Qd7+ Kf8

May-28-20  hdcc: <You would get more bums on seats if it were a pun on the Black-Eyed Peas song.>

Black-Eyed Peas? Sounds like two boxers on a toilet break.

May-28-20  jith1207: L O L
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