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Fred Bahr vs Vincent Zukaitis
Dayton (1960), Dayton, OH USA
French Defense: Tarrasch. Closed Variation (C05)  ·  1-0



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Jun-08-04  2ndNature: I've just verified that 'ignore-list' *does* work. The subject in my test was a user FerociousBeast. The following are the instructions from CG, that I successfully apllied:

"Your ignore-list is empty. To ignore a user, look up their profile."

"If you don't want to read FerociousBeast's messages, use this link: >> IGNORE all kibitzing by FerociousBeast"

After klicking the indicated link, I can see that I'm not longer a 6-years-old chess player (which is correct...)

Thank you CG,
2ndNature ;)

Jun-08-04  karlzen: <Hektor>, while 4...exd5 looks very natural, 4...Qxd5 (as in the game) should lead to one of the main lines of the French Tarrasch: 4...Qxd5 5.Ngf3 c5 6.Bc4 Qd6 7.0-0 cxd4 8.Nb3 Nc6 9.Nbxd4 Nxd4 10.Nxd4 is one of the most important tabiyas. I do agree that h6 was crossing the line. :)
Jun-08-04  ruylopez900: Well, I saw that sacrifice, but intuition said no :) I was looking at Bb5, Nxd7 and then f5 to try and have my Queen and Rook come bursting through on some open files.
Jun-08-04  themindset: don't feed the trolls.
Jun-08-04  Creator of Time: Is this a force mate or a win of material or positional advantage? i cant see a force mate here, im tired :(
Jun-08-04  iamdummy: creator ...k-h5 15. q-h3mate
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  kevin86: mate follows by ♕h3#
Jun-08-04  filipecea: Brilliant miniature!!
Jun-08-04  Whitehat1963: Oh my gosh, two days in a row. This one took a little longer than yesterdays, but I got it. Let me guess, it's Tuesday? We'll see how I do tomorrow.
Jun-08-04  jrsoohoo: the most pathetic puzzle ive ever seen I being a 1333 USCF rated player 11 years old, had this similar trap happen to my opponent on a 15 0 ICC game so I knew what this puzzle answer was easily, we need harder ones
Jun-08-04  acirce: <we need harder ones> We need easy puzzles AND harder ones, that is true and that is why the degree of difficulty increases from Mondays (easiest) to Sundays (most difficult).
Jun-08-04  pawn2E4: we've all encountered the 'french'..this one took a while,but i finally got it,'s a shame,we all aren't as quick as 'ferocious beast' or capablanca!
Jun-08-04  MoonlitKnight: FerociousBeast and jrsoohoo are the true kings of chess. I don't understand why they need puzzles at all.
Jun-08-04  ruylopez900: I wonder if will do a week of endgame problems next?
Jun-08-04  Checkmate123: Cool, ignore list does work.
Jun-08-04  sumitro: Can't chessgames block obnoxious characters like FerociousBeasts? My assumption is he is a fat teenage boy with pimples on whom everybody picks on.
Jun-08-04  iron maiden: <sumitro> Just use the ignore list like everyone else.
Jun-08-04  jrsoohoo: Heres some better puzzles Anand vs P Thipsay, 1987 posation after 54. ... Kd5, Tal vs Wade, 1966 white to move after 20. ... bxc4
Premium Chessgames Member <Very disappointed with the type of posting. Clearly not meeting posting guidelines. Can the postings, not related to the game, be please deleted by the management.> Yes, it is mostly against guidelines, but we don't like to interfere with discussions simply for being off-topic.

We have a de-facto page for political discussions. It's here: The World. We strongly suggest that those who want to continue this or similar political discussions move to that page.

Jun-08-04  Everett: Nice little combo here. I think it's in 300 Essential Chess Positions or somesuch by Lev Alburt. Love that book. Small, fits in the back pocket, and has some great positions. Plus, the cover has Alburt with a hot woman (his wife?) looking over his shoulder, perhaps implying that all good chessplayers get the girls. HA! Either not true, or I'm a mere woodpusher ;(.

I don't want to read or get involved into politics here too much, though I made that mistake before. Perhaps if we ignore it and just skip over what those individuals say, when not talking about chess, it'll all get better.

There isn't enough debate, serious or light, concerning much of the politics in the US. If people can voice something here, great. But many just scream at each other through exclamation marks and bold letters. No one is trying to change anyone's opinion, but rather are trying to show the other up. Hope something positive comes of these communications, but don't think it'll happen.

Alright, I'm off the podium. Back to chess.


Jun-09-04  Elrathia Kingi: It really looks to me like black has two major failing points: 4...Qxd5, which may or may not be completely flawed, and 8...h6? which gave white a huge time advantage and put black behind in development, creating the nice little sacrifice that brought the game to a close.
Jun-10-04  Elrathia Kingi: <karlzen> You are correct, moving the Queen out is not automatically a mistake, but it is generally ill-advised. However, looking again, I see that the queen on d5 combined with the subsequent b6 creates great weaknesses that cause the failing of the defence.

I find this discussion hillarious. Nobody is willing to budge an inch, making it utterly worthless, and both sides come off sounding utterly rediculous. Check out some sites on the war:

Jun-11-04  Elrathia Kingi: Really, though, white would have had a playable game as late as 11...Nxe5 12.Qxe5 Bd5. Does anyone know offhand the strength of Zukaitis?
Jun-11-04  karlzen: <Elrathia Kingi>, 11...Nxe5 12.fxe5 Nd5 13.Bb5+ Ke7 14.Qf3 or 12...Nd7 13.Bxe6! wins for white. Even the best, 11...Bd5, is very good for white: 12.f5! Qe7 13.Bxd5 exd5 (13...Nxd5 14.Nxf7!) 14.Re1 Nxe5 15.dxe5 Ng8 (15...Nd7 16.Qf3) 16.Nf3.

<>, surely you want the "active discussion" to concern chess and nothing else? It's even in the "note" below the posting guidelines. You must see that this is just a destructive conflict?

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  fredthebear: Fred Bahr is NOT this Fredthebear.
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