| Mar-21-04 | | Taidanii: How could a player of Nigel's caliber just ignore 35...Bf5 |
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| Mar-22-04 | | kashparov72c5: he probably was already lost at that point and threw in an extra move just for the heck of it Or very strong time pressure. |
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| Mar-22-04 | | fluidfive: I think Short missed a good chance... 18.Nxe6! fxe6 19.Bd4 Qc7 20.fxg6 with a promising attack. |
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| Mar-22-04 | | Cyphelium: Since 17.- Nxd3 is a check, 18. Nxe6 is not a legal move. |
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| Mar-22-04 | | Benjamin Lau: I wonder if he incorrectly copied that from the annotations from chessbase. They have something very similar, except that it's on move 19. Of course, it's labeled Nxe6!? because of the mind boggling complications. No one has proved it's any good, the position is very unclear afterwards although in a practical game, it might as well be good. |
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| Mar-22-04 | | fluidfive: Benjamin you are right, i did mean move 19. However, I did not incorrectly copy it from the annotations from chessbase. I saw Larry Christiansen going over the line for about a half hour at the World Chess Network. He seemed to exhaust all possible responses for black and white looked much better in every line. |
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| Mar-22-04 | | Lawrence: Ben, after reading the chessbase article I fired up Junior 8 and through to move 27 i.e. 17 ply it gives White an eval of 2.22. |
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Mar-22-04
 | | tamar: <fluidfive> Fascinating. Short missed a clear win. Do you remember any lines Christiansen gave? 19...♘xe6 fe6 20 ♗d4
♕c7 21 fxg6 looks absolutely crushing because ...♗f8 22 ♖f3! threatens a ♖ invasion on f7 and if 22...♖e7 23 ♖1f1 ♔g8 24 ♗xe5 dxe5
25 ♖f7 is curtains.
The other critical spot was 24 ♘xg6. This should get a question mark as the Kside attack no longer works, and
he had a good alternative with 24 ♘cxd5 ♗xd5 25 ♘xd5 ♖ac8+ 26 ♔b1.
Fritz confirms on deep analysis that this would be better for White +1.34 after the further moves 26...♕e6 27 ♗c3
♖c6 28 ♖f1 h5 28 ♕g3 This would have been hard for Short to go for, as it gives up on the mating patterns. |
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| Mar-22-04 | | Benjamin Lau: Lawrence, Junior 8 is good for finding interesting sacrifices (probably the best out of all today's programs), but not so good for judging the correctness of the sacrifice. However, since Fritz agrees too, then it must be some good, although I think Shredder has the most accurate king evaluation function right now. |
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| Mar-23-04 | | Lawrence: <tamar> and <Ben>, here's Junior's line.
19.♘xe6 fxe6
20.♗d4 ♕c7
21.fxg6 ♗f8
22.♖f3 ♕g7
23.♖f7 ♕xg6
24.♖xb7 ♗g7
25.♖g3 ♖ab8
26.♖a7 ♖f8
27.♖xa6 eval +2.22 (11 min. search)
I don't understand why the writer put the !? after 19.Nxe6 nor why s/he said "with complications our poor human brains can barely imagine." Those of us who automatically load every game we study from chessgames.com straight into Junior or Fritz--takes all of 3 seconds--see 100's of these strings every day, and one is not more mind-boggling than the others. I like Junior because it seems a little more Capalike than Fritz but my son says the best evaluation is the one Hiarcs gives us. At the moment we are suffering the thraldom of not having Shredder 8, only 7.04. |
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| Apr-01-04 | | Tigran Petrosian: 24.Nfxd5 keeps the advantage. |
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| Apr-10-04 | | lordhazol: After a" knock out" can we say he has better change before last hit?Its easy to say anything after comp analyses.Anyway two player is much stronger than us .But Short must find some good variations when times comes to defend.32 Bh6 promises ony f8 weakness but nothing than that.Maybe he needs some defending plans. |
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| May-17-04 | | alexandrovm: Nice counter attack by Garry, best player of our time... |
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| Jun-24-04 | | Cimperiali: In reply to Taidanii ["How could a
player of Nigel's caliber just ignore
35...Bf5 "]
Might it be because of "Rapid"
(=Reykjavik Rapid 2004) ? |
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| May-21-11 | | wordfunph: "There were at least 15 points at which I wanted to resign." - GM Nigel Short (after the game)
NIC Mag 2004/03 |
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| Oct-03-21 | | DouglasGomes: Computers are devious creatures, here is a interesting example. 14. Bd3 defends e4 and opens up the queen, but best is to hang the pawn and exchange for e6. 14. Bf1 keeps the light-squared the bishop which can be sacked against a g6-h5 structure with the great celerity which an attack requires. But such ideas are not expressed in the main computer PV (I am using Stockfish). So we could imagine the alternate continuation to be something like this:
14.Bf1 Nc6 15.Qh5 g6 16.Qh4 Re8 17.O-O-O Ne5 18.Rg3 Bf8 19. Rh3 h6 (... h5 20. Be2) 20. Ndxb5... (this last tactical shot relied on the c5 Knight not getting traded, but there are other ways to continue) Black position collapses. The main line:
<SF: +2.05 d42> 14.Bf1 Nxe4 15.Nxe4 Bxe4 16.fxe6 d5 17.Bd3 Bc5 18.Bxe4 dxe4 19.Rf1 Qe8 20.Qh5 Bxd4 21.Bxd4 Qxe6 22.Rf6 Qd5 23.O-O-O Kg8 24.Rf4 Qe6 25.Bc5 Rc8 26.Rd6 Qc4 27.b3 g6 28.bxc4 gxh5 (with a very good endgame for White) In the game the endgame resulting from 16. Nxc6 <SF: +1.27 d43> was good as well, not exactly what was going through Nigel's mind. |
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