chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Jules Arnous de Riviere vs Serafino Dubois
Match (1855), Paris FRA, Sep-05
Scandinavian Defense: Modern Variation (B01)  ·  0-1

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening
find similar games 7 more de Riviere/Dubois games
sac: 12...Ng4 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: The tournament is found above the game. For the newest chess events, this information may be a link which takes you to the tournament page which includes other games, a crosstable, discussion, etc.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

A COMPUTER ANNOTATED SCORE OF THIS GAME IS AVAILABLE.  [CLICK HERE]

Kibitzer's Corner
Sep-20-05  azaris: Even after 16. Be3, White looks lost.
Sep-20-05  lopium: Yes, seems worst. After the Bishop's exchenge and after that the White Q take the black bishop, then Ng3+, to attack the f1 rook with the Queen/rook colomn.... die shorter than the move played, I think!! Once again. Maybe forever. for me at least.
Sep-20-05  azaris: White has to start with 16...Nh3+, otherwise 16...Bxe3? 17. Qxe3 Nh3+?? 18. Qxh3 and White pins and wins.
Sep-20-05  paul dorion: <azaris>
Do you have any variations?

16 Be3 Bxe3
17 Qxe3 Nh3+
18 Qxh3 wins (Black queen is pinned!)

I could not find anything good for black in other variations and so did Fritz 5. So 16 Be3 seemed to win for white.

Sep-20-05  paul dorion: <azaris>
What happens after

16...Nh3+
17 gxh3 Bxe3+
18 Kg2

Black is still a rook down

Sep-20-05  azaris: Say 18...Bf4 19. Qh5. Then 19...g5 20. Qg4 Qxg4+ 21. hxg4 Nd4 and what does White do?
Feb-13-06  ckr: It is unfortunate that Dubois was not in France in 1858, it would have been very interesting.
Aug-08-06  sneaky pete: 16.Be3 Nh3+ 17.gxh3 Bxe3+ 18.Kg2 Bf4 19.Nc3 .. doesn't look pleasant for black. He should have played 15... exd3 when after 16.Be3 Nh3+ 17.gxh3 Bxe3+ 18.Kg2 Qe4+ is decisive.
Nov-10-07  nimh: Rybka 2.4 mp, AMD X2 2.01GHz, 10 min per move, threshold 0.33.

De Riviere 5 mistakes:
9.Re1 -2.05 (9.Ne1 -0.39)
12.Rf1 -3.91 (12.Nc3 -2.50)
13.Nxh8 -6.53 (13.Nxd8 -3.91)
16.Nd2 -7.28 (16.Be3 2.28)
20.Ne4 #9 (20.Nf3 -7.29)

Dubois 1 mistake:
15...Bxd4 2.28 (15...exd3 -10.79)

Dec-19-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eggman: <<De Riviere 5 mistakes>>

I dunno, following up 3.Bb5+ and 4.Bxd7+ with 5.c4 and 6.dxc6 seems rather dubious to me. Look at the position after 6...Nxc6 - Black has a 3-tempi lead in development.

Dec-19-07  nimh: Blunder Check doesn't analyse book moves.
<Black has a 3-tempi lead in development.> Black is a pawn down.
Dec-19-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eggman: <<Black is a pawn down.>>

Not for long, not with White having a backward d-pawn and no development at all.

Jan-16-16  zanzibar: http://www.chessarch.com/excavation...

gives game ending at move 23.

May-04-16  schnarre: ...Not surprised Black won this.
Sep-21-18  Yigor: Modern Scandinavian: Hanstein attack (gid=1266108, 1266109): Bishop Exchange.
Sep-21-18  Yigor: The previous Scandinavian game: Jaenisch-Shumov (1854), gid=1257991.
Sep-21-18  Yigor: The next Scandinavian game: Wiegelmann-Mayet (1856), gid=1575274.

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.
  8. Do not degrade Chessgames or any of it's staff/volunteers.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
others + Ruy Lopez
by hartkoka
Overwhelming kingside attack by Dubois
from Uncommon Openings by BishopofBlunder
The Best of Serafino Dubois
by SJP
Rookington's Scandanavian Defense
by rookington
19.2% - 3.8%
from Blunderchecked games II by nimh
Annotated in "500 master games of chess"
from A Group_1 by albacore
Marshall Gambit
from Scadinavian by clickclick
3.Bb5+
from Skandinavian / Chigorin for Black by katar
G327
from 500MGC2 by morwa
98_B00/B01 (Best of) Scandinavian, Nimzowitsch,
by whiteshark
Pawn grabbing in the opening ends badly
from Romantic era of chess by Calar
Game 327
from 500 Master Games of Chess by smarticecream
SCANDINAVIAN-OPENING
by saveyougod
Tactics - 3
by obrit
LuisHarrouch's Immortal Games
by LuisHarrouch
Scandinavian 3.Bb5+ Modern Var (B01) 0-1 Robust attack on f2
from PM Joins the Under 30 Crowd@Fredthebear's Place by fredthebear
Scandinavian 3.Bb5+ Modern Var (B01) 0-1 Robust attack on f2
from KP More Minis - Save by fredthebear
Serafino Dubois
by MountPixel
Game 327
from Master Games - Chess (Tartakower/du Mont) by Qindarka

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2023, Chessgames Services LLC