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Jul-07-16
 | | benveniste: ♗b6 shows confidence that I personally don't have. Doesn't ♗d2 accomplish the same thing? |
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Jul-07-16
 | | agb2002: White has two pawns for a bishop.
The bishop blocks the path of the queen to g3. Therefore, 31.Bb6: A) 31... Qxb6 32.Qg3+
A.1) 32... Kf7 33.Qg6#.
A.2) 32... Kh8 33.Ng6+ Kg8 34.Nge7+ Kf7 (34... Kh8 35.Qg8#) 35.Qg6#. A.3) 32... Ng5 33.Qxg5+ Kh7(8) 34.Qxh5+ Kg8 35.Qxe8 + - [R+N+3P vs 2B] followed by Re3 or Rb1-b3. B) 31... Nxb6 32.Qg3+
B.1) 32... Bg7 33.Nh6+ Kf(h)8 34.Ng6#.
B.2) King move as in A.1 or A.2.
B.3) 32... Ng5 33.Qxg5+
B.3.a) 33... Bg7 34.Nh6+ Kh8 (34... Kf8 35.Ng6#; 34... Kh7 35.Qg6+ Kh8 36.Qxe8+ wins decisive material while keeping the attack) 35.Qxh5 B.3.a.i) 35... Bb7 36.Nf5+ Kg8 37.Nxg7 followed by 38.Re3 looks winning. For example, 37... Kxg7 38.Re3 Nxd5 39.Rg3+ Kf8 40.Ng6+ Kf7 41.Nf4+ wins. B.3.a.ii) 35... Bd7 36.Nf7+ (or 36.Nf5+ as in B.3.a.i) 36... Kg8 37.Ng5 seems to win. For example, 37... Re7 38.Qh7+ Kf8 39.Ng6+ Ke8 40.Qg8+ Bf8 41.Qxf8#. B.3.a.iii) 35... Bxh6 36.Qxe8+ Kg(h)7 37.Qg6+ wins decisive material. B.3.a.iv) 35... Re7 36.Ng6+ Kh7 37.Nf5+ Kg8 38.Nfxe7+ Kf7 39.Nxc8 followed by 40.Nxe5+ wins decisive material. B.3.b) 33... Kh7 34.Qxh5+ Kg8 35.Qxe8 Bxf5 36.Qh5 + - [R+3P vs 2B] and attack. For example, 36... Qh7 37.Qxf5 Qxh4 38.Re4 Qh6 39.Rg4+ Bg7 (39... Kh8 40.Rg5 and Rh5) 40.Rg6 Qh7 41.Qe6+ Kh8 42.Qxd6 wins another pawn and gets another two linked passed pawns. B.3.c) 33... Kh8 34.Ng6+ Kh7 (34... Kg8 35.Nge7+ and mate in two) 35.Qh5+ Kg8 36.Qh8+ Kf7 37.Qh7+ Kf6 38.Qxc7 wins decisive material. |
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Jul-07-16
 | | PawnSac: < Razgriz: What happens after 37. ... Ra6 to try and hold? > Rb1 and the bishop hangs. This is probably the reason black resigned. Sometimes a swarm of minor pieces can defend even if the total material count is a little wanting, but in this case the position falls apart.
Black played on with hopes of a complicated defense, but after Qc6 the light of day stripped away those hopes. ..Ra6 Rb1 Bd7 Qb7 Bc8 Qc7. Stuff is hanging. |
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Jul-07-16
 | | Jimfromprovidence: <<PawnSac> < Razgriz: What happens after 37. ... Ra6 to try and hold? > Rb1 and the bishop hangs.>
38 c5 first also works well here.
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| Jul-07-16 | | beenthere240: It's interesting to go back a few moves to when Ken sacked a piece to get this position. Quite an attacking player! |
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| Jul-07-16 | | wooden nickel: <Once... So move the bishop! Where can we put it which also makes a threat so black doesn't have time to defend?>
Even oddball bishop moves work i.e. 31.Bc5
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Jul-07-16
 | | Once: <wooden nickel> Good point. I ran it through Fritzie and he gives good evals (more than +2) for most of the bishop moves - Bh6, Bb6, Bd2, Bc5, Bf4. 31. Bb6 looks to be the easiest to play because black has fewer choices. With the others, we need to work out how to defend against 31...Ndf6. The silicon may say that white can still blast through, but I wouldn't be so happy playing it over the board. |
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Jul-07-16
 | | drollere: i also thought Bh6 was the continuation.
the theme is to clear out the 3rd rank for the queen, and if Bxh6 then Nxh6+ gains a tempo, clears a defender, and forces either Kf7 or Kh8 (Kg7, N(4)f5+, etc.) however, the point is that after Bh6, black can play N(d)f6 rather than capture, and his pieces have more options for defense. Bb6 takes the knight out of play. i am pretty sure spraggett did not look 16 moves ahead. he just assessed the position was lucrative, which is why the computers score the different bishop moves as equivalently favorable. |
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| Jul-07-16 | | mel gibson: <drollere: i also thought Bh6 was the continuation. the theme is to clear out the 3rd rank for the queen, and if Bxh6 then Nxh6+ gains a tempo, clears a defender, and forces either Kf7 or Kh8 (Kg7, N(4)f5+, etc.) however, the point is that after Bh6, black can play N(d)f6 rather than capture, and his pieces have more options for defense. Bb6 takes the knight out of play. i am pretty sure spraggett did not look 16 moves ahead. he just assessed the position was lucrative, which is why the computers score the different bishop moves as equivalently favorable.> Good post -
B-h6 was a far more obvious move &
that's why many here saw it as the solution.
It's still an excellent move which wins. |
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| Jul-07-16 | | Olsonist: The queen desperately wants to give check. But there's a bishop blocking her. Pretty much downhill from there. |
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Jul-07-16
 | | gawain: 31 Bf4 is not as forcing as some other moves but it seems to win. Black's best reply is to capture the bishop 31... exf4 in spite of the invasion 32 Rxe8. White cannot play the intended Qg3 but that's OK, he has several ways to win from here. |
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Jul-07-16
 | | thegoodanarchist: Got the main idea in about 5 seconds, a clearance sacrifice to allow the White queen to come to the g-file for attack. |
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| Jul-07-16 | | RandomVisitor: After 30...Bc8
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<+11.10/34 31.Bb6 Nxb6 32.Qg3+ Qg7 33.Nh6+ Kh8 34.Ng6+ Qxg6 35.Qxg6 Bxh6 36.Qxe8+ Bf8 37.Qc6> Ra6 38.Rb1 Ra7 39.Qxb6 Rg7 40.Qe3 Bb7 41.Qf3 Kg8 42.Qxh5 Ba6 43.Qe2 Nf6 44.Rb8 e4 45.Ra8 Bb7 46.Rxa5 Rg6 47.g4 Bc8 48.Ra8 Bd7 49.Qe3 Kf7 50.Qf4 Bxg4 51.Rxf8+ Kxf8 52.Qxd6+ Kg7 53.hxg4 Nxg4 54.Qe7+ Kh6 55.Qf8+ Rg7 56.Qf4+ Kh5 57.Qf5+ Kh6 58.Kf1 e3 59.Rb1 Rg6 60.Qf4+ +7.60/34 31.Bh6 Bxh6 32.Nxh6+ Kh8 33.Qg3 Ndf6 34.Ng6+ Kg7 35.Nxe5+ Bg4 36.Nf5+ Kg8 37.Nc6 h4 38.Nxh4 Qg7 39.hxg4 Qxg4 40.Qxg4+ Nxg4 41.Nf5 Rxe1+ 42.Rxe1 Kf8 43.Nxd6 Ng5 44.f3 Nf6 45.Kf2 Ne8 46.Nf5 Nf6 47.g4 Nf7 48.Re7 Ng8 49.Rb7 Ngh6 50.Nxh6 Nxh6 51.Nd4 Nf7 52.Ne6+ Kg8 53.c5 Nd8 54.Nxd8 Rxd8 55.c6 Rxd5 56.c7 Rc5 57.Rb8+ Kf7 58.c8Q Rxc8 59.Rxc8 Kf6 60.Ra8 Ke5 61.Rxa5+ +6.66/34 31.Bd2 Ndf6 32.Qg3+ Ng4 33.hxg4 Bxf5 34.Nxf5 h4 35.Qxh4 Qf7 36.Bh6 Be7 37.Qh3 Qg6 38.c5 dxc5 39.Qd3 Nf8 40.d6 Bxd6 41.Qxd6 Qxd6 42.Nxd6 Re6 43.Bxf8 Rxf8 44.Ne4 Rc8 45.Nxc5 Re7 46.f3 Kh7 47.Kf2 Kg6 48.Kg3 a4 49.Red1 Rec7 50.Rd5 e4 51.fxe4 a3 52.e5 Kf7 53.Kf4 Ke7 54.Ke4 |
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| Jul-07-16 | | JimNorCal: Quite an imbalance at the end: rook plus four minors against queen and two rooks. |
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Dec-17-16
 | | WannaBe: Oh, ah, errrrr, hmmm.. Okay, I did not get the pun, so I went to google and looked it up. It's a 2003 novel by Lionel Shriver:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Ne... Okay, I'm really quite lost on this one. Please enlighten; on what the pun is... |
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| Dec-17-16 | | zanzibar: Maybe it's not a pun, but the truth.
Ever visit his site? |
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Dec-17-16
| | WannaBe: <Z> You mean the one on wordpress? Or is there another site? Am I suppose to guess and pick & choose???????? How about a freakin link here, for a dumb bunny like me? Since I can't decipher the pun from a school massacre fiction??? |
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| Dec-17-16 | | zanzibar: <WannaBe> well.... Let's do a google search on <spraggett chess>, and pick the obvious top listing link <Just nice to look at> https://kevinspraggettonchess.wordp... There's a reason I like to run with GIF animations turned off, and this ain't, err, I mean this *is* one of 'em. Now, you might not have a problem with this admixture, but my doctor warned me against ... etc. But I'm sure Kevin's Wordpress stats blow mine off the map due to the different, err, graphical styles we present. (Anyways, the pun is a bit tongue-in-cheek. I'd give it a good fruity Beaujolais rating) |
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| Dec-17-16 | | zanzibar: BTW <WannaBe>, you are over 18 aren't you? * * * * *
<“Life is mostly pain and struggle; the rest is love and deep dish pizza.”> (Benedict Smith) Kevin Spraggett |
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| Dec-17-16 | | PhilFeeley: <WannaBe> It's a movie title: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1242460/ |
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| Dec-17-16 | | ISeth: Played like Kasparov/Fischer .Gem Game . |
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| Dec-17-16 | | ninja warrior: correct me if I'm wrong, but i think the pun refers to a line from 'home alone', which is a popular christmas movie for those who don't know. :) |
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| Dec-17-16 | | Absentee: <ninja warrior: correct me if I'm wrong, but i think the pun refers to a line from 'home alone', which is a popular christmas movie for those who don't know. :)> "We Need To Talk About Kevin" is the title of a novel and of its movie adaptation. |
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Dec-17-16
 | | Richard Taylor: <Absentee: <ninja warrior: correct me if I'm wrong, but i think the pun refers to a line from 'home alone', which is a popular christmas movie for those who don't know. :)>
"We Need To Talk About Kevin" is the title of a novel and of its movie adaptation.> I didn't know the reference. But it's like these Xmas cg.com have to drive people mad: they often refer to movies or movie stars, TV shows, plays or novels. Most people, or many, go to watch a movie and are blissfully ignorant of the novel. But the eternal debate, novel or movie, goes on ( as someone who reads a lot and goes to movies less but quite a bit or I used to and used to sell books etc) the debate is endless. But there are many movies based on novels. I have never read 'One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest' but the film was good enough for me whereas in other cases the book 'Catch 22' is better than the movie. The NZ novel by Maurice Gee 'In My Father's Den' is far better than the movie and sometimes it is the other way around. But the movie is always a different thing... |
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Dec-17-16
| | Richard Taylor: Well, it's a great game by Kevin Spraggett.
Or is it "sproggett"? A sprogett is a car of machine part but I seem to have the (US) spelling wrong... |
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