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Kurt Stummer vs Emil Joseph Diemer
Unknown (1955), unknown
Blackmar-Diemer Gambit: Ryder Gambit (D00)  ·  0-1



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Jan-04-04  Bears092: A taste of his own medicine?
Not quite as successful as Stummer had hoped.
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  kevin86: Is this game for real? I have never seen so many tactical thrusts in a chessgame! Pieces go flying everywhere! 4 stars (oops,I thought it was a movie)
Jan-04-04  fatbaldguy: Did white miss a win with 22 Ne4+ Kb6 23 Qd4+ ? Both 23 ... Kc6 and 23 ... c5 lead to 24 Qc5 mate. 23 ... Kb5 is met by 24 a4 Ka5 25 Qc5 K:a4 26 Nc3 mate. And 23 ... Ka5 is met by 24 Qc5 Qb5 (24 ... Ka4 25 Nc3 mate) 25 b4+ Ka4 26 Nc3 winning the queen. In some of these variations, black escapes mate by sacrificing the queen, but the endgame with a white queen against the two bishops white has a clear advantage. Did I miss something (I usually do)?
Jan-04-04  euripides: Looks right to me. I think 23...Kb5 can aso be dealt with by 24 Qc5+ Ka4 25 Nc3 mate.
Jan-04-04  fatbaldguy: Thanks for pointing out the quicker variation in the 23 ... Kb5 line. Pity that Stummer didn't win, it's always noteworthy when a well-known player gets beaten at his own game.
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  kevin86: Hobson's choice: If 35 ♔a1 ♖b8 wins the ♕ or mates;or ♔c1 ♙e2+ 36 ♔b1 or ♔b2 ♖b8 wins the queen and queens his own
Jan-04-04  Calli: <fatbaldguy> Good point! Stummer had the win. Before this game he was just Stum, but now he's Stummer :=>
Jan-04-04  fatbaldguy: <Calli> Ouch... but you may actually be right in a sense - "Stumm" in German actually means "Dumb"! (although as in "mute" rather than "stupid").
Jan-05-04  seoulmama: A very entertaining game, nothing too deep, but I liked it nevertheless.
Oct-21-04  morphy234: Amazing! Diemer's king is out in no man's land naked, and white STILL can't mate him! hahah
Mar-08-05  aw1988: Good lord, white plays Diemer's own weapon against him, strips his king naked, and still manages to lose.
Apr-18-05  dpenso: How about 22. b4+ winning the queen or checkmate?
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  InspiredByMorphy: <aw1988> Do have an alternative plan black could have tryed to achieve victory?

<dpenso> How does white win after 22.b4+ Kb6 23.Qd4+ c5 ?

Apr-18-05  aw1988: I don't know, I haven't looked at it, nor do I feel like it right now.
Apr-18-05  sneaky pete: <InspiredByMorphy> 22.b2-b4+ Kc5-b6 23.Qa4-d4+?! c7-c5 24.Qd4xc5#, but this may even be improved upon by 23.Qa4-c5#.
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  InspiredByMorphy: <sneaky pete> Thanks. Poor post by myself.
Nov-01-05  DeepBlade: Confirms my theory:
Never play the opening against the guy who invented it.
Nov-01-05  Happypuppet: <sneakypete> Neither 23. Qd4+ nor 23. Qc5# are legal...
Jan-27-06  DeepBlade: Althou, I think White played well during the game.
Jan-27-06  misguidedaggression: 21.Na4+ Kc4 (Kb4 22.c3+ Ka5 23.b4+ Ka6 24.Nc5+) 22.b3+ Kb4 23.c3+ Ka3 (Ka5 24.b4+ looks familiar) 24.Nc5 should win for white.
May-15-10  sneaky pete: 21.Na4+ Kc4 22.c3 .. is given as a
(quicker) win by Diemer, and so is (after 21.Qa4 a6 22.Qd4+ Kc6) 23.b4 ..

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