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Robert G Hartoch vs Hans-Joachim Hecht
Skopje Olympiad Final-A (1972), Skopje YUG, rd 1, Sep-27
English Opening: Agincourt Defense. Catalan Defense (A14)  ·  1-0

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Dec-05-03  euripides: A beautiful combination. Would the prosaic 37 Ng2 also work ?
Dec-05-03  JSYantiss: I don't think it would work here, euripides. It would give Black the chance to counterattack, whereas White's attack will fizzle out if he doesn't continue to check Black's King. With 37. fxe6+, I think all of Black's replies are losing...if 37...Kg6, 38. Qe8+ wins. If 37...Kg8, we get what happened in the game. If 37...Ke7, 38. Qd8+ wins. If 37...Nxe6, he allows 38. Qxd5, pinning and eventually losing his knight. And if 37...Kxe6, 38. Qe8+ wins the bishop, the knight, and the game.
Dec-05-03  Alchemist: This is a complex line that seems to have a number of good continuations, I got the first few moves, but not finding a forced mate after about 20 minutes (if only the rook weren't stuck on the back rank arggghhh), the continuation seems really tricky. Though all lines seem to be winning, one thing that i did notice is that white shouldn't have waited to play fxe6+, because after Qf2+ Kh1 Qf3+ (threatening draw by repetition) Ng2, black can win back the f pawn with Qxf5.
Dec-05-03  euripides: After 37 Ng2 White is a rook up. Black is lost if he doesn'thave a concrete counterattack and I don't seeanything that works.
Dec-05-03  patzer2: Hartoch's 35. Rf8+ wins with a (+7.28) assessment according to Fritz 8 (@ 12/70 depth & 684kN/s). However, White also wins with 35. Rac8 (+9.94), 35. Rd8 (+9.53), 35. Rb8 (+9.00), 35. fxe6+ (+7.25), 35. Ng2 (+7.25) and 35. Rd2 (+6.66).
Dec-05-03  patzer2: <Alchemist> Fritz 8 verifies your comment that the immediate 36. fxe6+ was better than 36. a8=Q (although both moves still win). Initially, Fritz 8 gives Hartoch's 35. Rf8+ a winning assessment of +7.28. However, after 36. a8=Q the assement drops to +4.78 with the continuation 36...Qf2+ 37. Kh1 Qf3+ 38. Ng2 d4 39. Qa7+ Kg8 40. Bxd4 Qxf5 41. Qd7 Qd4 42. Nf5 Ng5 43. Qe8 (@14/59 depth & 726kN/s).
Dec-05-03  JSYantiss: After 37. Ng2, you are correct, euripidies. White IS a rook up, but I'm not sure if I would want to lose that valuable f-pawn sitting there.
Dec-05-03  Dick Brain: This is the hardest kind of problem for most of us. It's easy to get a queen on a8, but you have to keep your king safe until then and afterward. Even though the problem is even cooked with other good continutations, it's still possible to go wrong.
Dec-05-03  talchess2003: Never heard of this guy before. He looks real promising.
Dec-06-03  euripides: After 37 Ng2 I think White can keep the f-pawn - if 37...ef 38 Qxd5+.But obviously the forced mate is prettier.
Dec-06-03  Alchemist: <euripides>

37. Ng2 would be a weak move, it doesn't really DO anything. It prevents a threat that doesn't in actual fact exist. The best defense in this case is a good offense. And there is no forced mate here.

Dec-07-03  euripides: well the threat of Nf3+ and Qxh2 is worth noticing.
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