| Jun-25-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: This is by no means a draw. My
guess is it was a humble jesture by black to offer one. Games
werent timed yet, so I see no other reason for it. |
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| Jun-26-04 | | acirce: Well if there is some extremely subtle and surprising study-like way for Black to win this, the reason would probably just be that the Black players didn't see it. I don't believe that, however. I don't see how this is not a draw. How on Earth does Black stop White's king from reaching the corner? |
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| Jun-28-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: 49. ... Kg5 50. Kf2 or f4+ Kh4
Blacks king will have no difficulty winning one of the pawns. The
bishop can be sacrificed for the other, and blacks a pawn
promotes. To conclude, even though white has two pawns they
are not connected, and black has a pawn in promotable range
free of attack. This is not only a win, but a forced one. |
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| Jun-28-04 | | acirce: <InspiredByMorphy><blacks a pawn promotes> How??? I don't go to f2 with the king, I go towards the a1 corner, of course. Isn't it just the elementary theoretical draw with Black's wrong-coloured bishop?? |
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| Jun-28-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: <acirce> If white brings the king toward the a corner after blacks pawn, black plays a4 and the pawn is guarded by the bishop. Blacks king would then wipe out whites remaining undefended pawns. |
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| Jun-28-04 | | acirce: And then what? You don't even know that is a theoretical draw do you? You can't force my king away from the corner so that you can promote the pawn, because your bishop isn't of the same colour as the a1 corner - you can look it up in any book on basic endgames. |
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| Jun-28-04 | | suenteus po 147: I think <acrice> is right on this one. White gets to the corner first and that's it, draw. When the pawns get eaten up by the black king the a1-b2 squares are hopping grounds until the black king returns and then the white king just ducks in the corner. Draw. |
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| Jun-28-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: <acirce> I see now. Thank you. White doesent try and do anything with the pawns. Whites only objective is to get its king on a1, and because the bishop isnt the color of the queening square, its a draw. I was definitely slow on this one. |
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| Dec-29-05 | | RonB52734: Nevertheless, an instructive endgame discussion. Thanks to you 3. |
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| Jan-18-07 | | wolfking: Is this because b2 is the only escaping square for white's so if black kings takes it, it's stalemate and if not the white king just goes a1-b2-a1-b2 and draw? |
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| Oct-23-07 | | nimh: Rybka 2.4 mp, AMD X2 2.01GHz, 10 min per move, threshold 0.33. Hanstein 10 mistakes:
15.Ng5 0.09 (15.Bg5 0.75)
19.Be3 -0.22 (19.Bf4 0.13)
20.Bd4 -0.72 (20.Rac1 -0.15)
22.Bxf6 -1.88 (22.Nd2 -0.80)
27.Qc6 -3.28 (27.Qg5 -1.89)
33.Qf6+ -1.21 (33.Rd6 -0.44)
37.Rxb6 -1.81 (37.Rf5 -1.15)
41.Kg4 -4.15 (41.g4 -1.82)
43.Kg4 -3.24 (43.g4 -1.54)
47.a4 -1.44 (47.Ke4 -0.72)
Von Der Lasa 7 mistakes:
17...Nd5 0.08 (17...Qb8 -0.27)
29...Be4 -1.79 (29...Rad8 -3.58)
30...Bxd4 -0.85 (30...Bd8 -1.78)
41...Be8 -1.56 (41...Ke6 -4.15)
43...h5+ -1.31 (43...b5 -3.24)
44...Bf5 -0.75 (44...h4 -1.32)
47...Be8 -0.05 (47...Bg6 -1.44) |
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| Apr-01-09 | | Mate Hunter: Yep, 47...Bg6 would've won for Black. |
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| Mar-16-11 | | abstract: review Mir Sultan Khan's notable games with Max euwe.. Ull know how this is a draw :) |
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| Mar-16-11 | | shalgo: <Yep, 47...Bg6 would've won for Black.> I had to play it out to see why--and it is very instructive. If White tries 48.a5 as in the game, Black wins with 48...bxa5 49.Ke3 Ke5 50.Kd2 Kd4 51.Kc1 Kc3--the combination of the bishop on the b1-h7 diagonal and the king stepping along the a1-h8 diagonal keep the White king out of the corner. The bishop can also stop the f- and h-pawns without leaving the diagonal--if 51.h4 a4 52.h5 Bf5! |
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