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| Dec-29-11 | | galdur: <LoveThatJoker>
Hadn´t read the messages before posting. You wound this up very nicely. |
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| Dec-29-11 | | gofer: I see the rather dull, <23 ... Rg6> at which point white has
to go an exchange down by playing <24 g3> after that it looks
as though white may go another exchange down, so perhaps things
are actually not that dull after all...
23 ... Rg6
24 g3 Bxf1
25 Rxf1 Ned2
26 Nxd2 Nxd2
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| Dec-29-11 | | LoveThatJoker: <qaldur> Thanks for reading my posts, man! It's good to see that we're all really delving into this position! LTJ |
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| Dec-29-11 | | Powerthinker: Why does the administration of chessgames.com place the same puzzle several times? I've seen this puzzle at least 2 times before that! |
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| Dec-29-11 | | CHESSTTCAMPS: White has the bishop pair and threatens gxh3, but black has pressure on g2 and a very useful "octoknight" on e4. By adding another attack on g2, black wins decisive material. 23... Rg6!
Not 23... Bxg2+?? 24.Bxg2 Rg6 25.Bxe4 shuts down the attack. A) 24.Bxe4? Bxg2+ forces mate.
B) 24.Rg1? Nxf2#
C) 24.gxh3? Qg1+ 25.Rxg1 Nxf2#
D) 24.g3 Bxf1 25.Bxe4 (Rxf1? Ned2 wins a 2nd exchange) Be2! (standard desperado) 26.Re1 dxe4 27.Rxe2 Qh5 28.Re1 Rh6 29.h4 f6 and black is up the exchange with the dangerous threat of g5. E) 24.other Bxg2+ forces mate.
Time for game review... |
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Dec-29-11
 | | kevin86: I missed it...My try was Bxg2+ followed by Rg6,but white defuses the attack by capturing the knight-ouch! |
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| Dec-29-11 | | 5hrsolver: must have been a shock for white to see that queen zoom down like that. |
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Dec-29-11
 | | scormus: This took some finding, and its still Thursday. I tried lots of N-sac moves, a B-sac, even a Q-sac. After some time the scales fell from my eyes..... 23 ... Bxg2+ 24 Bxg2 Rg6 25 Bf3 (or Rg1 Nxf2#) Qg1+ 26 Rxg1 Nxf2# Now check. |
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Dec-29-11
| | scormus: Oh, 23 ... Rg6, and it won! I thought I'd looked at that ... What about 24 g3? Have I missed something? I'd better check the posts now |
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Dec-29-11
| | scormus: 25 Bxe4. Ouch, chess blindness :( |
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| Dec-29-11 | | dzechiel: Black to move (23...?). Material even. "Medium."
For whatever reason, it took me a long time to realize the black rook on c6 was capable of lateral movement. Once I took this into consideration, spotting 23...Rg6
was pretty easy. Black threatens 24...Bxg2+. It looks like white will have to give up an exchange with 24 g3 Bxf1 25 Rxf1
as other attempts to defend g2 fail. For instance
24 Rg1 Nxf2#
or 24 gxh3 Qg1+ 25 Rxg1 Nxf2#
I think this must be it. Time to check. |
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| Dec-29-11 | | Patriot: After 1 am, I came up with 23...Rg6 but didn't attempt to see what happens after the obvious 24.gxh3. 24...Qg1+ 25.Rxg1 Nxf2# is a beautiful finish. I only looked at 24.g3 Bxf1 winning at least the exchange. <morfishine> Nice analysis! |
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Dec-29-11
 | | doubledrooks: Black piles on the pressure on g2 with 23...Rg6. For example: a. 24. g3 Bxf1
b. 24. gxh3 Qg1+ 25. Rxg1 Nxf2#
c. 24. Bxe4 Bxg2+ 25. Kg1 Bf3# |
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Dec-29-11
 | | Jimfromprovidence: <LoveThatJoker> I overlooked your commendable analysis, that's for sure. <Morf> and <LTJ>, on the line 23...Rg6 24 g3 Qf5 25 Bg2, consider 25...Rh6 first. 
click for larger viewThe plan is for black to play 26...Bxg2+, then 27...Qh3. White can't play 26 Bxh3 because of 26...Qxh3 with forced mate. 26 Bxe4 is met by 26...dxe4 with multiple threats.
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| Dec-29-11 | | gofer: As <morfishine> points out, white has to avoid <23 ... Rg6 24 g3 Bxf1 25 Rxf1 Ned2 26 Nxd2 Nxd2>
and so must attempt to complicate black's advantage.
<23 ... Rg6>
<24 g3 Bxf1>
<25 Bxe4 ...>
But black can sidestep out of this complication...
<25 ... Be2!>
White cannot easily play <26 Bg2> as going two rook exchanges down
would make life a little tricky! One continuation might be... <26 Bxg6 fxg6>
<27 Kg1 Qf5>
<28 e4!? dxe4>
<29 Re1 Bf3>
<30 Re3 Nxe3>
<31 Bxe3 ...>
Black has managed to keep its longterm control of f3 and white is
struggling! |
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Dec-29-11
 | | chrisowen: Scurry it rook gerbil meet double quick in ground black sees On gravity fall in g3.
Banana main flavour akin to rg6 one slide across xh3 g1+ ar good mind lumpy g5 finish on down check queen please. Its been a so-long coming rook over g3 ar present his majesty Re quest now I ledge o f5 whites got in the hump bxe4. I ment or dxe4 looks good rip apart groove in press I then expect at tool done it wrench in teaze cry it foul finch black has got better endgame king for free chicken proost! |
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| Dec-29-11 | | LoveThatJoker: <Jimfromprovidence> Good on you for finding yet another advantageous resource in the position, man! 25...Rh6! is definitely a strong move as well!
LTJ |
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| Dec-29-11 | | M.Hassan: <LoveThatjoker: Unfortunately Bxg2 does'nt work due to 24.Bxg2 Rg6 25.Bxe4 followed by 26.Rg1> You are absolutely correct. I did not see 25.Bxe4. Thank you so much |
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| Dec-29-11 | | LoveThatJoker: <M.Hassan> Thank you for the acknowledgement, brother! LTJ |
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| Dec-29-11 | | morfishine: <LoveThatJoker> I stand corrected. <24...Qf5> after 24.g3 is tremendously strong; particularly in the line 25.Bg2 Bxg2 26.Kxg2 Ng5 Nice post(s)!
<Jimfromprovidence> Its always a pleasure for me to observe and digest your resourcefulness. <gofer> Thanks for looking and excellent point regarding <24...Bxf1 25.Bxe4 <Be2!> 26.Bxg6 fxg6 I only looked at that briefly |
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Dec-29-11
 | | Peligroso Patzer: Black seemingly was lost after <21. Bd4?>. If he had played <21. Kh1>, he would have stood only slightly worse. This game is somewhat reminiscent of yesterday’s GotD: Larsen vs Fischer, 1971, where White also ran into trouble after failing to play <Kh1> as soon as the Black Queen played to a half-open g-file. |
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| Dec-29-11 | | Nostrils: <M.Hassan:
I was thinking that if White had made a different move on 23 instead of moving his King, there was no loss:23.Qa2 Bxg2
24.Bxg2 Rg6
25.f4
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I was thinking the same but perhaps:
23. Qa2 Rg6
24. Bxe4 Bxg2
25. f4 Bxe4
26. fxg5 Rxg5+
27. Kf2 Rg2+
28. Ke1 Rxa2
no immediate win but black has a couple of pawns.
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| Dec-29-11 | | LoveThatJoker: <morfishine> Thank you for your kind acknowledgement, man! It's a real pleasure to read your posts! LTJ |
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| Dec-29-11 | | M.Hassan: <Nostrils: I was thinking the same but perhaps:......>
Very interesting line. Thank you for this clever post. |
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