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Marianna Bagdasarova vs Ksenya Rybenko
RUS-ch U16 Girls (1998), St Petersburg
Modern Defense: Geller's System (B06)  ·  0-1



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May-17-06  VargPOD: Found Nxe4, didn't consider Ng4. Well, either knight move overloads white bishop, that has to protect both a1-h8 and a7-g1-diagonals. White's play looks very weak.
May-17-06  mig55: I had Ng4, thx chessgames...Took me 2 min.
May-17-06  pyryk: Hmm..I got 14...♘xe4 but had a different variation in mind: 15. ♗xg7 ♗xe4!! Yes, that's what you get for solving puzzles while working.
May-17-06  RandomVisitor: <al wazir>14...Nxe4 15. fxe4 Bxd4+ 16. Kh1 Bxa1 (16...Qc3 17.Qe2) 17. Qxa1 Ne5 or Qa5 seem to be the possibilities.
May-17-06  naamloos: I saw Ng4 immediately and stopped looking as it seemed a good enough answer to me.

I don't think that in a real game I would look further than Ng4 if I found it.

May-17-06  aazqua: What horrible play by white. I thought ng4 was the solution as well. It's easy to go "right" when the opponent doesn't know what she's doing.
May-17-06  RandomVisitor: 14...Nxe4 15.Nxe4 Bxd4 16.Nf2 h5 or Qf4; 14...Nxe4 15.Be3 Nc3
May-17-06  zb2cr: Put me down with the 14. ... Ng4 crowd.
May-17-06  EmperorAtahualpa: Saw Monday's puzzle, missed Tuesday's one, and found this was one again! Not too difficult for a Wednesday, I think.
May-17-06  jahhaj: I saw 14...Nxe4 as winning a pawn, I didn't notice Bxd4+ forked the rook. I did see the mate after 15.Bxg7 Qb6+ though.
May-17-06  Mating Net: Those that selected 14...Ng4 missed the boat. The position with 14...Black to move features a hopelessly weak g3 square smack in front of the White King. 14...Ne4! aims to exploit that glaring weakness.

The main fault with 14...Ng4 is that a better move, that demonstrates a superior understanding of the position, is available.

May-17-06  Halldor: I joined the 14...Ng4 crowd, happy with winning the exchange.
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  kevin86: My move was 14...♘g4 thrusting the knight into a sea of pawns. Black threatens mate as well as a fork at d4. As Crazy Ralph (Friday the 13th) would say to the white pieces-"You're all doomed!"
May-17-06  YouRang: I missed it. 14...Nxe4! is a very nice observation by Black in a sharp tactical position.
May-17-06  artemis: This is an example of when Larsen's tendecy to find as many winning lines as possible before deciding on the one to use comes in handy. I looked and saw that with the bishops undefended, there must be a way to hit them. Then the g3 and f4 squares also looked appetizing. The fact that the g1-a7 diagnoal was weakened came next. Now, with the knight on h2, I started looking for the mating attack.

After finding the mating attack, I investigated Ng4, but found it less than appetizing. This is an interesting puzzle. thanks cg

May-17-06  dakgootje: Both got Nxe4 and Ng4 as candidate-moves but only calculated the Ng4-one, mainly because it was winning and the first of them i analysed, but mainly because it looks much more forcing.
May-17-06  Dudley: Give it a rest,14...Ng4 is not the solution. 14...Ne4 demonstrates an accurate understanding of the position-the point of these puzzles is to find that devastaing, unexpected move that ices the game right now, not just any move that happens to win. Go ahead and give yourself credit for ...Ng4, but you're not doing yourself any favor.
May-17-06  zb2cr: 14. ... Nxe4; 15. Be3 avoids immediate mate, but White loses the exchange. I fail to see how this is any better than 14. ... Ng4. Please enlighten me.
May-17-06  einuj: I saw 15. Be3... 16.... Ng3 ,17. Re1 Qc3... I don't see any immediate win also but white here is slowly and surely gaining advantage...
May-17-06  RandomVisitor: 14...Nxe4 15.Be3 Nc3 16.Qc2 Ne2+ 17.Kh1 Qxc2 18.Bxc2 Ng3+ wins the rook
May-17-06  Tariqov: <Random visitor>I doubt anyone saw that.:)

<Dudley>I am one of the Ng4 group,F.Y.I. Ng4 is not wrong as posted by earlier.

May-17-06  Ger7ry: Thanks Manic et al. I stand corrected, as usual.
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  al wazir: <durnstein: Instead of 17 ... dxe4, 17 ... h5. White's knight can't go to g4, and Black safely remains up the exchange.>

Well, I'd rather be up than down the exchange, but is that a clear win? Black's position is wide open.

<RandomVisitor: 14...Nxe4 15. fxe4 Bxd4+ 16. Kh1 Bxa1 (16...Qc3 17.Qe2) 17. Qxa1 Ne5 or Qa5 seem to be the possibilities.>

Yes, 17...Ne5 is pretty convincing.

May-18-06  zb2cr: Thanks, <RandomVisitor>.
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  patzer2: For the May 17th puzzle solution, the combined deflection and decoy move 13...cxd4! sets up a winning discovered attack after 14. Bxd4 Nxe4! .

If 14. Bf2, then 14...Qc3! wins. Black has a mating attack after 15. Bxg7 Qb6+ , or a winning double attack following 15. fxe4 Bxd4+ 16. Kh1 Qc3 .

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