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Aug-20-03 | | dukesterdog: So has Wind refuted the "Immortal Draw"? |
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Aug-20-03 | | Calli: "refuted the "Immortal Draw"? "
Perhaps, the improvment being Kb5 instead of b4. Maybe 11...b6 is an improvement for Black. |
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Aug-21-03 | | dukesterdog: Of the two possible lines I see one looks good for White, and the other looks about even : a) 11...b6 12. d4 exd4 13. Qxd4 Ne7 14. Qxc5 Bd7+ 15. Kb4 bxc5+ 16. Kxc5 and White is up a minor piece although his King is still exposed b) 11...Ne7 [Now if 12. Kxc5, then Black plays a5 leading to the draw] 12. Qe1 a5 13. Qxe5 Na6 14. Kxa5 Nb8+ 15. Kb4 Nc6+ 16. Kb3 Nxe5 17. d4 ... and Whites King has made it to safety with roughly even chances. |
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Apr-16-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: The queen sac is atrocious 8. ... Bg4 9. Be2 Nc6 10.c3 b5 11. Nc5 Qc4+ 12. Kc2 Nd4+ 13.Kb1 Nxe2
Whites position is cramped and black has attacking chances everywhere with much better development. Not to mention the queen side pawns ready to storm the king on b1. |
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Jul-08-04 | | trogdor: after 11.Kb5 my computer goes on like this 11. ...b6 12.d4 exd4 13.Qxd4 Ne7 14.Qe5 f6. Then it claims black can mate white in 7 moves and rufeses to continue playing. But the line doesn't look right. It doesn't give me whites 15th move either it just says 15...a5 16.Qxe7+ Kxe7 17.Kc6 Rd8 18.Bf4 Bd7+....... Then it goes on with more nonsense, but I'm using the extreme chess program. |
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Jul-09-04 | | Theoryhack: Dukesterdog's lines seem to be right, though after 11 ne7, c4! seems to be winning for White - albeit an "only" move. Tseitlin & Glazkov give 7 Qe1 as refuting the whole attack anyway, though Shredder does have Kc3 as it's first choice initially. T&G may be wrong... |
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Jul-09-04 | | chessdr: InspiredByMorphy: I like the possibilities of 8. ... Bg4, but what do you do after 9. Nf3? White has more resources that way. |
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Jul-09-04 | | chessdr: Theoryhack: After 7 Qe1 try 7. ... Bd7 with direct threats against the knight and weird threats against the f1 bishop. After 8. Nc3 dxe4+ I like black a lot, as in 9. Nxe4 f5; 9. Qxe4 Bf5; 9. Kc4 e3+ 10. Kb3 Nc6. After 8. b3 Bb5+ 9. c4 dxc4+ 10. Kc3 Bxa4 11. bxa4 Nf6 white keeps the piece for two pawns but his position looks awful. I don't know -- after 12. d3 Qg4 who would you rather be? |
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Jun-14-05
 | | TheAlchemist: Black's draw has gone with the Wind. |
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Oct-18-06 | | crafty: 12. b4 ♘e7 13. bxa5 ♖xa5+ 14. ♔xa5 ♘c6+ 15. ♔b5 (eval 3.47; depth 14 ply; 2000M nodes) |
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Oct-29-07 | | whiteshark: Simple development with <8... Nc6> should win. No intention to sac the ♕, even if it's monday. |
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Dec-14-07 | | Sibahi: Wow, I actually figured out a clue :D |
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Dec-14-07 | | Doktorn: Grats, Sibahi. I was going in another direction. "Almost equal to" "infinite" (timewise) "draw". So I checked the longest draws, and then tried to figure out a way to only search for long correspondance draws. |
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Jan-26-08 | | RookFile: The whole game is kind of silly in a way. With the common sense retreat 3... Be7, you start to wonder what exactly that knight is doing on a4. Black would welcome 4. Qg4 Nf6 5. Qxg7 Rg8 with a big lead in development. |
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Mar-25-09 | | WhiteRook48: blown away by the Wind |
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Jun-14-09 | | WhiteRook48: 3 Na4?? fails |
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Oct-01-13 | | Dragi: OK After Whites 11.Kb5 correct answer is 11.b6 ... if white plays 12.d4 then black plays 12.a5 ,white can not take knight or pawn because becaue of Bd7+ and mate ...The only move now , for white king , in this variation , is
13.Kc6 Kd8 , 14.dxc5 Ne7+ ,15.Kb5 Bd7+ mate...but this variation works only if white plays 14.dxc5 or dxe5 because if white king plays 14.Kxd5 his road is open , not completely saved but white wins ... Second and more serious line after 11.b6 is 12.d4 a5 13.Kc6 Ne7+ 14.Kxc7 Nd7 15 .dxe5 Ra7+ 16.Kd6 0-0 17.Kxe7 Nc5+ 18.Kd6 Rd8+ 19.Kc6 Na4 20. Qxd5 Bb7+ 21.Kb5 Rxd5 ....i am going to sleep heheheh |
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Oct-01-13 | | Dragi: Or the best variation after 11.b6 is : 12.d4 a5 13.Kc6 Ne7+ 14.Kxc7 Nd7 15 .dxe5 Ra7+ 16.Kd6 Bb7 and white king is in a dead trap soon to be mate ..for example 17.Kc7 Ba8+ 18.Kd6 Nc8 mate or 17.e6 Nc8+ ,18.Kc7 Ba8+ ,19.Kxc8 0 - 0 mate ...hehehe |
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Jul-01-18 | | takchess: Seems that I am locked out from a pun due to someones prior submittal. A Mighty Wind. Please give it a vote from me. |
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Jul-01-18 | | zanzibar: <<takchess> Please give it a vote from me.> What?! And encourage this sort of behavior? Nothing doing! |
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Jul-01-18 | | takchess: Yes I have no pride....Z. Are you from New England ? |
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Jul-01-18 | | zanzibar: <takchess> yes siree bob! |
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Jul-01-18 | | takchess: I hope to play some at Harvard Square once they get the construction all straighten out. Est 1 to 2 years. |
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Jul-06-18 | | zanzibar: <takchess> there's plenty of chess going on in the Pit, probably as we speak. |
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Sep-21-19
 | | louispaulsen88888888: Why not 8.P-Q4? |
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