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Ruy Lopez de Segura vs Giovanni Leonardo Di Bona da Cutri
Rome (1560), Rome ITA
King Pawn Game: Damiano Defense. Damiano Gambit (C20)  ·  1-0

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Oct-27-08  VaselineTopLove: 7.d4 looks like a poor move...
Jan-10-09  WhiteRook48: Ruy Lopez didn't play the Ruy Lopez. I wonder why.
Jan-17-09  WhiteRook48: 2...f6?
Apr-26-09  Autocontingente: 2... f6?. That's horrible.
Oct-21-09  Wayne Proudlove: We all know the name Ruy Lopez. But what about Giovanni Leonardo di Bona? Well, he won the first known international master tournament in the history of chess in Madrid in 1575. Both he and Ruy Lopez were young men at the time of this game in 1560.
Mar-04-10  rich187113: I played the Damiano defence once, but I wasn't stupid enough to play fxe4 after my opponent played Nxe4, I just played g6...
Sep-12-10  theodor: <WhiteRook48: Ruy Lopez didn't play the Ruy Lopez. I wonder why.> at that time Ruy Lopez didnt new that the Ruy Lopez does exist!
Sep-12-10  I play the Fred: <at that time Ruy Lopez didnt new that the Ruy Lopez does exist!>

At the time, Lopez called it "the Me opening". He was also popularly known as RLo.

Mar-23-11  redorc19: 2...f6???????????????? loses by force.
May-06-11  SBarrett449: Some beginner mistakes here for black. At this point... 3.Nxe5 Qe7 seems safer for black.

two possible scenarios if white's not careful and still decides to check with the queen.

4.Qh5+ g6 5.Nxg6 Qf7 6.Nf4 Qxh5 7.Nxh5

4.Qh5+ g6 5.Nxg6 Qxe4+ 6.Kd1 Qxg6

The latter being the best choice for black in the given scenario. Not the best lines but could see either occurring with such wild illogical play.

Feb-05-13  RPdigital: Damiano defense sucks!
Feb-05-13  jakaiden: <RPdigital: Damiano defense sucks!> Once Carlsen plays it, then everyone will jump on the bandwagon.
Feb-06-13  torrefan: Even if Carlsen loses?
Aug-03-13  Sergash: Houdini 1.5a: 5...d5! 6.Bd3! Nd7! 7.exd5! Nxe5 8.Qe2 Bd6! 9.dxc6 bxc6 10.Be4! Ne7 11.d4 Nxf3+ 12.Bxf3 Bxf3 13.Qxf3 0-0 = or black having compensations for the pawn.
Aug-04-13  Sergash: Sorry, previous comment was for the other game of Ruy Lopez where he plays White!

The remainder of the here game could have looked like 10.Qxh7+ Bg7 11.Bh6 Qxe4+ 12.Kf1! Qxd4 13.Nd2! Nd7 14.Nf3! Nf8 15.Ng5+! etc.

Aug-06-13  GumboGambit: Even Damiano condemned the Damiano Defense. Its a shame that it is associated with him. He stated in his writings that Nc6 was the best way to go.
Dec-01-14  welhelm1982: I know how roy won because black died byloughting when roy give him bichop
Dec-30-14  stewart mutasa: I think ruy deserves a win just by his openings
Feb-01-16
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  dernier loup de T: Fourth white move: surprise, surprise!! lol!
May-12-16  dunamisvpm: jakaiden: <RPdigital: Damiano defense sucks!> Once Carlsen plays it, then everyone will jump on the bandwagon. > Agree
May-12-16  raju17: Thanks CG for bringing a very old game pertaining to thee renouned Ruy Lopez himself!!!
May-24-16
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  dernier loup de T: WhiteRook 48, Lopez could play the Lopez only if 2...Ktc6 ; but little chance, because himself aviced to Black not to play that to avoid the terrible Lopez, LOL!! So, 2..f6 is better (hem hem), and even more 2..Ktf6 or ..d6... or ...d5!!
Apr-06-17  Yigor: 7. d3 is better than 7. d4. Da Cutri should play 7...Qxe4 or 7...Nxe4 instead of 7...Kf7. Well, white is largely winning anyway.
Jan-21-20  GrandMaesterPycelle: I read an article (on chess.com I think) explaining that f6 was an important defence before the rules regarding how the queen moves changed. This is why Damiano devoted time to it and probably the point of such example-games from Greco - to demonstrate why it is a poor move under the new rules.
Jul-03-20  Atking: <GrandMaesterPycelle> Indeed I doubt that the old Chess one would give up such strong piece (In this game 2nd after the Rook) as a Knight. Shatranji tabbiyyaat haved slow development. Yet at Damiano's time, the Queen was already there P Damiano vs NN, 1512 I read that Damiano prefered 2...Nc6 and nearly 50 years latter Ruy Lopez suggested the move was bad because of 3.Bb5...
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