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| Oct-24-11 | | Novirasputin: i don't consider this move an overload per say so much as a simple pin. To me overloading is when a piece has too many defensive tasks.
here the task of the rook was just to defend f3 which it cannot do after a rook sac.
Of course the move is sound and the abc's of what tactic this is theoretically and conceptually are not relevant because the point is the mvoe and the win, not what you name it, but as a study i would explain this as use of a pin and not an overload. To me for instance a simple overload example would be Steinitz vs Zukertort, 1886
move 17 Steinitz (part of a slightly deeper combination based off of the mistake Nh6) plays Rxh6 winning a knight and the game because the pawn is overloaded in defending the f6 pawn on which Steinitz can fork the queen and king. The bishop is going to be pinned so in that case you clearly see the pawn on g7 having too many defensive tasks.
Again apples and oranges in the case of a clearly good win but from a theoretical point i like the way i see it (coincidentally something i picked up from Murray Chandler's great youth book "chess tactics for kids"). |
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| Oct-05-16 | | wilfredo munoz: How about 29 ... Qb2? No need for overloading or pinning. |
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Nov-08-18
 | | al wazir: 27...Re3 was easy to find. After 29. Kh1 I would have played 29...Qb2. I think that wins just as well as the game line. |
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| Nov-08-18 | | lost in space: <<al wazir>: 27...Re3 was easy to find. After 29. Kh1 I would have played 29...Qb2. I think that wins just as well as the game line.> Same here |
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| Nov-08-18 | | wtpy: I saw the game line and didn't even consider Qb2 but that appears to be answered by Rh5. I just checked Stockfish and that is the recommendation with only a slight edge to black. |
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Nov-08-18
| | al wazir: <wtpy: I saw the game line and didn't even consider Qb2 but that appears to be answered by Rh5.> You're right, or Stockfish is. |
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Nov-08-18
 | | agb2002: Black has a knight and two pawns for a rook.
The black rook can attack the white queen and bishop from e3. Therefore, 26... Bc5+: A) 27.Kg2 Re3 28.Qa4 Re2+ (28... Qb2+ 29.Kh1(3) Qe2 30.Bb5) 29.Kh1 (29.Kh3 Qe6+ wins the rook on d5) 29... Re1 A.1) 30.Rxe1 Qxf3#.
A.2) 30.Rdd1 Qxf3#.
A.3) 30.Kg2 Rxf1 31.Kxf1 Qxf3+ 32.Ke1 Qxd5 - + [b+n+p vs R]. B) 27.Kh1 Re3 28.Qa4 Rxf3
B.1) 29.Rxf3 Qxf3#.
B.2) 29.Rfd1 Rf1+ 30.Kg2 (30.Rxf1 Qxf1#) 30... Rf2+ 31.Kh3 (31.Kh1 Qf3+ 32.Kg1 Qg2#; 31.Kg1 Ra2+ wins). 31... Qe6+ 32.Qg4 (32.g4 Qe3#) 32... Rxh2+ 33.Kxh2 Qxg4 wins. B.3) 29.Rg1 Rf1 wins.
C) 27.Rxc5 Rxc5 - + [B vs n+2p].
D) 27.Rf2 Bxf2+ - + [B vs n+2p]. |
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| Nov-08-18 | | Walter Glattke: I thought for 28.Qf5. White advantage!? |
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| Nov-08-18 | | erdogankilic: Excellency in chess!!
Sharp and definite |
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| Nov-08-18 | | Mayankk: I missed the Re1 tactics, although I saw the Bc5+, Re3 threat and the follow up with Re2+ if Kg2 instead of Kh1. But I didn’t know how to proceed after that till I saw the shocking Re1. |
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| Nov-08-18 | | Lambda: Odd puzzle. You don't need to see the final move to recognise the immediate continuation as a promising attacking idea. It's not like you're making a sacrifice and need to see to the end to know that the sacrifice is justified. |
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| Nov-08-18 | | dTal: I agree. I also didn't see Re1. I thought Qb2 won it, but as pointed out, there is a defence. I think the key move of Re1 is hard to spot, at least for me, at the beginning of the combination. |
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| Nov-08-18 | | saturn2: Same for me
26...Bc5+ 27. Kg2 Re3 28. Qa4 Re2+ 29. Kh1 Qb2
I did nor consider 30 Rh5 |
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| Nov-08-18 | | Walter Glattke: 28.Qf5? Rxe8, 28.Bxf7+ seems to stop mate. |
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| Nov-08-18 | | clement41: Fully agree with lambda’s kibitz: this makes the combination not so hard to find OTB because one would go for it anyway |
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| Nov-08-18 | | malt: Had 26...Bc5+ 27.Kg2 Re3 28.Qa4 Re2+ 29.Kh1 Qb2 did not see ...Re1 Thought Whites best move was 26.Qf5 |
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| Nov-08-18 | | cunctatorg: That person (Anatoly Karpov) many times makes chess to look like very simple and too easy... |
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| Nov-08-18 | | wtpy: Al, I went to Stockfish after I looked at Rh5 to confirmn that it was best defense. |
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| Nov-08-18 | | Andrew Chapman: Instructive that 29...Qb2 doesn't work. As a guy at my old chess club used to say to me - 'look at the whole board' - which I often failed to do as I should, and still do, as in this case. Andrew |
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| Nov-08-18 | | marcodpt: How white proceeds after 12... Bxd5? |
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| Nov-08-18 | | John Abraham: nice finish |
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Nov-08-18
 | | HeMateMe: more Kow Bell! |
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Feb-14-20
 | | cSete: SLOWLY improving at looking for counter play/best moves by the enemy camp. Bet the farm on 29...Qb2. "Look at the board". Easier said than done....... |
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Jun-17-20
 | | plang: In Lputian-Adorjan Hastings 1986-87 Black tried 13..g5 and the game ended in a draw; 13..Re8 was new. <marcodpt: How white proceeds after 12... Bxd5?> After 13 0-0-0 White has tremendous pressure: ie. 13..Bc6 14 Ne5 or 13..Be6 14 Bb5. 17..Nf8 was a solid defense to White's attack; analysis after the game showed that accepting the sacrifice was also playable: 17..Qxf4 18 Qxh7+..Kf8 19 Qh8+..Ke7 20 Rfe1+..Kd6 21 Rxe8..Rxe8 22 Qxe8..Qxg5 23 Qxf7..Kc7 24 Bb5..Bc8with unclear play. Karpov thought tat 21 Be3 would have been an improvement. Black would have been fine after 22 d6..Ne5 23 Be2..Bc5+ 24 Kh1..Bc6 25 Rde1..Ng4. White blundered with 26 Qe4?; instead the game would have remained balanced after 26 Qf5..Qxf5 27 Rxf5..Rc7. |
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Jun-17-20
 | | perfidious: Dang, I remember flying to Memphis the day this game was played; bet it was warmer in Wijk aan Zee than down there! |
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