chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Samuel Rosenthal vs Wilhelm Steinitz
Baden-Baden (1870), Baden-Baden GER, rd 14, Jul-31
Scotch Game: Horwitz Attack (C45)  ·  1/2-1/2

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Get this game explained with Decode Chess
explore this opening
find similar games 8 more S Rosenthal/Steinitz games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You should register a free account to activate some of Chessgames.com's coolest and most powerful features.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
Nov-16-02  refutor: quite an entertaining game...and messy...look at the position after 18. ... Qxf2...who's winning?!
Mar-04-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  An Englishman: Good Evening: I think it's pretty clear that after 18...Qxf2 both players are hopelessly lost. Great fighting game, though. I suspect that if Rosenthal was winning, then he blundered away much of his advantage with 27.f5.
Mar-04-13  thomastonk: What a sad game. Steinitz throw away a nice day in this wonderfull spa by 12.. ♕g2. Instead 12.. ♘e5! looks decisive!

<refutor, An Englishman: 18.. ♕xf2> After that move I think I could decide who is winning ;-), but the text move is unclear.

<An Englishman: I suspect that if Rosenthal was winning, then he blundered away much of his advantage with 27.f5.> Rosenthal was never winning in the early phases of the game, and before 27.f5, which is not a good move, he is clearly loosing. Count the material, and since White has no successful attack, he is much worse.

Steinitz lost his advantage with 31.. f6, because that destroys his firm structure in the centre. It was necessary to fight the mating threat on d8 by different means, say 31.. ♕b1+ 32.♖d1 ♕b6 33.♗c5 ♕a5+ 34.♖1d2 ♘f5 or 32.♔f2 ♕b6+ 33.♔g2 ♘f5 or 32.♗d1 ♘c6.

After 34.. ♘c6?? Rosenthal is the first time winning. Necessary was 34.. ♕xe3+ 35.♔xe3 ♘f5+ 36.♔f4 ♘xd6 37.♗xd6 ♗xa2 38.♗xb7 and the game can only end in a draw.

Next it is Rosenthal who avoids winning by not playing 38.♖d7, and possibly also by avoiding 39.♖d3.

Whenever I look in detail at one of the not so well-known games by the old masters, the myth of their tactical abilities is reduced.

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
Fightingest games
by ughaibu
Baden-Baden 1870
by suenteus po 147

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2021, Chessgames Services LLC