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Cecil De Vere vs Wilhelm Steinitz
Dundee Congress (1867), Dundee SCO, rd 2, Sep-05
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. Rio Gambit Accepted (C67)  ·  1-0

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Kibitzer's Corner
Oct-19-02
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  Honza Cervenka: 13...Kf7 is typical for Steinitz's style. He often used king in the opening or in the middle-game as an active piece. Here he could not play 13...0-0 as after 14.cxd5 cxd5 15.Nc3 his pawn d5 is lost. But De Vere refuted Steinitz's conception of this game in great style. His move 18.Nxf6 is stunning blow. Nevertheless 18.Nc7 b5 (what else?) 19.Ne8+ Qxe8 20.Bh6+ Kxh6 21.Qh4+ Kg7 22.Rxe8 was winning too thanks to Steinitz's move 17...Bf8. After better 17...Bd6 De Vere would have also big advantage playing for example simple 18.Bf4.
Oct-19-02  Danilomagalhaes: I guess you´re right. But the game could continue by another way, but anyway the white is better...: These are the posible moves after another move than the 13th move: 1. e4, e5,
Nf3, Nc6,
Bb5, Nf6,
0-0, Nxe4,
Re1, Nd6,
Nxe5, Nxe5,
Rxe5+, Be7,
d4, f6,
Re1, Nxb5,
Qh5+, g6,
Qxb5, c6,
Qb3, d5,
c4, dxc4
Qxc4, Bf5,
Bh6, Qc7,
Bg7, b5,
Qe2, Rg8,
Bxf6, O-O-O,
Qxe7, Rd7,
Qe5, Qxe5,
Bxe5, Rf8,
Nc3, Bd3,
Re3, Bf5,
Rc1, Kb7,
Ne4, Bxe4,
Rxe4, a5,
f3, g5,
h3, h6,
Ree1, Kb6,
Kf2, h5,
Rc3, Rd5,
Rec1, Rc8,
g4, hxg4,
Rc5, Rf8,
Rxc6+, Ka7,
Rc7+, Ka8,
hxg4, Rdd8,
R1c6, Rf6,
Rxf6, a4,
Rff7, Rd7,
Rf8+, Rd8,
Rxd8#
1-0

(Of course black has possibilities to take the game to another way...)

Oct-26-05  jjones5050: I have analyzed 22.Bh6 a)...KxB 23. QxQ b)...Kf6 23.Qe5## c)...Kg8 23.Re8 Be6 24.QxR which forces mate. Correct?!
Jun-23-06  Calli: 16...cxd5 "A frightful error of judgment. The isolated passed pawn could certainly never have been as dangerous as the openings given by this capture at once to all the hostile pieces. Black ought to have played 16...c5" - W. Steinitz
Jun-23-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: Another unfortunate soul (De Vere) who died of tuberculosis.
Sep-27-07  RookFile: Very clever of Steinitz to spend two tempos moving his king, and another, reteating his king's bishop, in the middle of an open game.
Jun-12-08  Whitehat1963: Great Monday/Tuesday puzzle after 27...Bf7.
Dec-15-08  popski: Interesting that was 8.d4!? played only once according to Opening Explorer. Is this move somehow refuted or just isn't contemporary enough?
Sep-28-12  Calli: Too many moves. Steinitz resigned after 27.Re8

Sources: Schachzeitung:
http://books.google.com/books?id=7K...

Transactions of the BCA: http://books.google.com/books?id=pn...

Chess World: http://books.google.com/books?id=-i...

Correction submitted.

Sep-28-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  NM JRousselle: Sometimes I have to wonder if Steinitz deliberately played badly so he could win some "lunch money".
Jun-11-16
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  Sargon: Someone has submitted updated game scores for several old Wilhelm Steinitz games, including this one, but hasn't sourced them. I've gone ahead and posted the updated scores, but perhaps sources could be located?
Jun-11-16  zanzibar: Sargon - are you correcting a <Calli> correction?

De Vere vs Steinitz, 1867 (kibitz #9)

That would give me pause.

Jan-10-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  sea7kenp: Incidentally, not 6 ... Nxb5 because of 7 Nxc6+, winning Black's Queen, like a well-known Petroff Trap.

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