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| Feb-13-09 | | hedgeh0g: Our house...in the middle of the street. |
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Feb-13-09
 | | kevin86: HOUSE MAKES DOCTOR CALLS!!!
Or,Fischer on Friday!
A rare defeat for the tempramental player in his growing years. |
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| Feb-13-09 | | AnalyzeThis: He probably was playing 50 other boards and won all of them. |
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| Feb-13-09 | | Chessmensch: <WannaBe> It's hopeless. Deep Fritz 10 rates the position at the end as -9.63. In the play forward black wipes white's few remaining pawns off the board in a few moves and the slaughter continues. |
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| Feb-13-09 | | Everett: Terrible opening for white. The only time one should NOT attempt the KIA is in the double-king-pawn openings. Fischer was obviously not taking this very seriously.
The only way the KI formation in double KP games can make sense is on the black side after white commits a bishop to b4 in the Ruy. |
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| Feb-13-09 | | Chessmensch: If Fischer was indeed playing a large number of opponents in this simul he might have been using a number of openings to differentiate the games--and as a result selected some poor ones. |
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| Feb-13-09 | | AnalyzeThis: <Everett: Terrible opening for white. The only time one should NOT attempt the KIA is in the double-king-pawn openings. Fischer was obviously not taking this very seriously. The only way the KI formation in double KP games can make sense is on the black side after white commits a bishop to b4 in the Ruy. > At the GM level, white sometimes plays this as a drawing weapon. |
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Feb-13-09
 | | Once: <Everett: Terrible opening for white.> Hmmm ... I'm not so sure. The g3 Vienna is not a great opening, to be sure. But it's reasonably solid, easy to learn and has rather more high level games than you might imagine (if not the absolute highest level). Some GMs use it on the professional circuit as a relatively straight-forward "money in the bank" sort of opening against lower graded opposition. Nigel Short has used it on a few occasions. You are not going to get a huge advantage from the opening, but you aren't going to get floored by a TN and you should get a playable middlegame when better technique ought to tell. A great hangover opening - unpretentious, safe, solid. Just the right sort of opening for a GM (and future world champion) to use in a simul ... ... until one of the rabbits grows fangs and bites your head off. It's also very useful for club players as very few lower graded opponents will know that 3... d5 is the best way to respond to it. And, yes, I do have a personal interest here. It is one of my favourite ways to play the open games as white ... but only against selected opposition. |
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| Feb-13-09 | | crazydotaplayer: A good game,but mister Fischer missed a nice combination 15 Nd5! Qd6 16.Qxd4 and now black has 2 options but both of em lose a peace 16... f6,0-0-0. |
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| Feb-13-09 | | WhiteRook48: Fischer said "this game is fishy! I should have won!"
House: "Not in my house"
where is House's house?
LOL |
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| Feb-13-09 | | GreenArrow: <Everett> This opening is not terrible at all. It has a reputation as insipid but this is not really the case at all. Scottish GM Paul Motwani has utilised it with great effect; Fischer seems to mess it up somewhere along the lines here though.
A lot of people just don't have a good understanding of chess, and automatically adopt the traditional view that it is 'drawish', whereas people who are prepared to think for themselves may draw a somewhat different conclusion. |
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| Feb-13-09 | | parisattack: <AnalyzeThis: <Everett: Terrible opening for white. The only time one should NOT attempt the KIA is in the double-king-pawn openings. Fischer was obviously not taking this very seriously. The only way the KI formation in double KP games can make sense is on the black side after white commits a bishop to b4 in the Ruy. >
At the GM level, white sometimes plays this as a drawing weapon.
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Smyslov and Spassky both played 3. g3 with success. Glek is/was the specialist and has some beautiful wins with it. 6. Nge2 looks too passive to me - but far from me to criticize a Fischer move! |
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| Feb-13-09 | | xrt999: We are up to eight apologetic comments for Fischer. This is about 33% of all posts here, not counting all of the players that I have on ignore. This is about the degree of analysis I would expect most CG posters to give this game. Rather than try to get into the game, just post "it was a simul anyway" and go away. |
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Feb-14-09
| | Once: <xrt999> Don't you think that's a little harsh? Yes, there is a tendency to eulogise Fischer on this site, but I don't see eight apologetic comments for Fischer. A number of people have commented on the opening and some have pointed out that this was a simul. But most have accepted that House played very well here and thoroughly deserved his win. Let's be careful that we don't react to one form of bias with another bias of our own. |
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| Feb-14-09 | | blacksburg: <Once> don't worry about him, he's just trolling. |
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Feb-14-09
| | Once: <blacksburg> I suppose even trolls need a little love, today of all days! |
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| Feb-14-09 | | blacksburg: <Once> perhaps you're right. <xrt999> i love you, man. let's be friends. |
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| Feb-15-09 | | Everett: <Once>
I agree with you that it is fine in a simul when there is not much respect for the opposing player, but that's about where our concordance ends.Nonetheless, good luck with the system against your selected opposition! I mean no offense! |
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Feb-02-10
 | | GrahamClayton: I wonder if Fischer sang this after the game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXu9... |
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Feb-03-10
 | | HeMateMe: I always got the vibe that RJF might have laughed, and smiled a bit, after losing a simul, in a very tactical position. His love for the game would have trumped the ego. No such occurrence for losing a GM tournament game, of course. But, I can think of GMs who would stomp off and wet their pants after losing in a simul. |
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| Dec-03-14 | | TheFocus: From a simul in Santa Monica, California on April 19, 1964. Fischer scored +45=2-3. |
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Oct-30-19
 | | sea7kenp: I'm in Opening Explorer with this. Apparently, Fishers 6 Nge2 shows up as favoring Black 55.6 Percent. 6 Nf3, on the other hand favors White 72.5 Percent! I think Fisher's problems begin right there. |
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Oct-31-19
 | | perfidious: By no means do winning percentages necessarily tell the whole story; one innovation in a line previously established as good for one player can upset the balance, despite a favourable score overall. There is often no substitute for critical thought in the openings, though Stockfish et al do a dang good job of it later on in the game. |
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Oct-31-19
 | | keypusher: <sea7kenp: I'm in Opening Explorer with this. Apparently, Fishers 6 Nge2 shows up as favoring Black 55.6 Percent. 6 Nf3, on the other hand favors White 72.5 Percent! I think Fisher's problems begin right there.> Well, he had a winning position at moves 14 and 15, so his problems ended quickly. But then they began again. |
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Oct-31-19
 | | diceman: You know what they say:
The "House" always wins! |
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