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Ruy Lopez de Segura vs Giovanni Leonardo Di Bona da Cutri
Papal States Exhibition (1560), Rome, Papal States, Apr-??
King's Gambit: General (C30)  ·  1-0



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Jan-25-08  wolfmaster: 9...Qe7??, 9...Be7 was a lot better.
Feb-25-08  deadlysin: ruy lopez de segura....
he probably made the ruy lopez
this match was played in 1575 by the way
Feb-25-08  Gilmoy: An unread novel visits me in my dreams, softly entreating to be written in the way an Alaskan Malamute will croon for his dinner portion in the morning. It teases me by loosening its, ahem, covers, exposing a glimpse of its first line:

<My father had three great hobbies in his life; as for myself, I am named Ludwig van Nistelruuy Lopez.>

Aug-22-08  just a kid: Nice tactic.
Jan-24-09  WhiteRook48: basic tactics overpower your opponent.
Why didn't Ruy Lopez play the Ruy Lopez opening? :D
Jan-24-09  arctic tern: <bvwp: I think I can remember once seeing a copy of a painting wherein da Cutri is standing and looking pleased with himself, and Ruy Lopez is still bent over the board, a beaten man. Does anybody know about this painting?>

This one?

It was painted by Luigi Mussini in 1882, according to this source.

Jan-31-09  WhiteRook48: thinking about Ruy Lopez. Puzzling he didn't play that opening
Mar-16-09  dwavechess: 8/12 concur for Ruy Lopez de Segura with Rybka 3 at 3 min. per move with Rybka.abk book
Jun-09-09  WhiteRook48: dude with the great skill
Jul-13-09  Salaskan: Wolfmaster, after 9...Be7??, 10.Qf7#.
Mar-05-10  Alfa110: Ruy Lopez rocks!!
Mar-21-10  SirChrislov: The first ever World Championship match! played at the court of Felipe II de Espana.

Having visited Rome in 1560, Lopez defeated both Boi and Gio da Cutri. Legend has it that on his revenge visit to Madrid, Gio purposely lost the first two games to the "titleholder"(the winner of 3 games was to be declared champ), then to show his complete superiority, he won 3 games in succession, and implied that his victory was too easy to be interesting! --quoted by Chernev in '1000 best short games of chess'

A cynic might say, "This is World Championship Chess?" A kindly critic might venture, "Master chess has made enormous strides since 1575."

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  HeMateMe: Winner got to torture two heretics?
Feb-02-11  Lennonfan: Ruy lopez playing a kings gambit!! It just dont round right...
Sep-29-11  fetonzio: finally what looks like a complete game score
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  FSR: Apparently you didn't have to be too good to be a world-class player in those days. Can anyone set me up with a time machine?
Aug-04-13  Sergash: Houdini 1.5a: 5...d5! 6.Bd3! Nd7! 7.exd5! Nxe5 8.Qe2 Bd6! 9.dxc6 bxc6 10.Be4! Ne7 11.d4 Nxf3+ 12.Bxf3 Bxf3 13.Qxf3 0-0 = or black having compensations for the pawn.
Oct-24-14  Christoforus Polacco: What if the black king go very brave on 'e6' ? :)
7.Ne5+ Ke6 8.N:g4 is too funky and not in the ''spirit'' of King's Gambit :) The move from game is still good and developing figures. 8.Q;g4+ K:e5 9.d4+ and if 9... Q:d4 10.Bf4+
If any different black's move, so 10.O-O
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  perfidious: The line 7.Nxe5+ Ke6 8.Nxg4 may not be 'in the spirit of the gambit', but Black would simply be two pawns to the bad with little apparent compensation.
Oct-27-14  Christoforus Polacco: <perfidious>
OK :) It's my small chess joke. But I like this game and sometimes for bigger fun I try to extract more ''juice'' from this grape-fruit :)But it can be practical - not only care-free joys - because very similar sharp array of figures (8.Q:g4+ K:e5) I met in one version of Sicilian Defence. So - I hinder white's winning for training :) And for bigger pleasure to regale the game (and fantasy about there) of the legendary chess maestros. It's my tribute to Ruy Lopez and Leonardo.

One chess coach mistook Leonardo da Cutro for ... Leonardo di Caprio. It was a some of laughing :))

But anyway white should win - black king is like gen.Custer on the hill.

Oct-03-15  The Kings Domain: Lopez is perhaps the first talented player to be recorded in the game's history.
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  Domdaniel: <The Kings Domain> There were many talented Arabic and Indian players in earlier centuries. Lopez may be the earliest European champion, but that's all.
Apr-08-17  Yigor: So, the first occurence of KGD. 2...d6 can be called Da Cutri variation. 5...dxe5? is the critical mistake; black should play 5...d5 in order to avoid the trap.

PSCC: 2EFe (KG) --> 2EFe1d (Da Cutri variation).

Dec-24-17  Christoforus Polacco: What about 4...d5 instead of 4...Bg4 ? 5.ed e4 6.Ng5 cd.
Jan-05-23  generror: Definitively the better of the two games played between these two in 1560, although it isn't exactly master level and especially da Cutri is more like your average patzer (take heart, 12 years later he was showered in gold by Philip I for avenging this defeat). Quite instructive to see what can happen if you attempt to "pin" the white knight on f3 when there's a bishop looking at good ol' f7.

Also, I'd recommend both players to read up on some basic opening theory, although at least da Cutri doesn't play the Damiano. Sure, there wasn't any in 1560, but it just makes one feel so superior to give advice to the strongest player of his time, doesn't it? That's what we're here for, really.

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