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Coppen vs Bass
? (1987)
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. Beverwijk Variation (C65)  ·  0-1



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May-17-05  fgh: Bass, with the help of his bosses guitar and contrabass, beated Coppen in 9 moves :-)
May-17-05  aw1988: Oh dear. How not to play the Ruy.
Jul-22-07  melianis: If you happen to do this 5.Re1? automatically (f.e. in blitz) , try 6.Re2 Nd4 7.Nxd4 exd4 8.h3/d3, not good but better than this...
Oct-19-19  sea7kenp: What a choice White has: Take the Queen with the Knight or with the Rook. Either way, he gets Smothered by the Black Knight!
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  Louben: 6.Rf1 is better than 6.Re2.
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  perfidious: White caught himself a real fish in this brevity.
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  fredthebear: <Jul-17-22 perfidious: White caught himself a real fish in this brevity.>

You do have a use <perfidouche>, but you're no fisherman.

White lost - in NINE moves. Bass is about to cast Philidor's Legacy.

It's another example of how little effort perfidy puts into his shallow posts.

Jul-18-22  stone free or die: Most people just call it a smothered mate.

I had to look up Philidor's Legacy, it's not what you see here, at least according to Wiki - where Phildor's Legacy has the knight checking the king and not the queen to start the pattern.

(I think the Wiki narrative could be tightened, the Nf7+ doesn't send the king to the corner.)

* * * * *

Now, looking at the PGN for the game - I don't really think this was a real game but a composition. If it was from a real game it's very low quality, below my threshold -

• No Source tag
• No Event tag
• No Site tag
• Date just the year.
• Both players have just one game in DB(*)

(*) Bass has two games, almost certainly from two different players.


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  perfidious: <zed>, not to worry; <fredthebore> rushes in head over heels to play the fool while emulating friend <messiah>.
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  fredthebear: Coppen vs Bass, 1987

Fake Z troll: You can do research, tons of research, but you are just plain chess ignorant. After all these years <I had to look up Philidor's Legacy> says it all. Clearly, you don't know "most people" in chess. Philidor goes way back - how'd you miss him??

You'd better read your own chess research again, and again. What good is research if you don't actually take the time to learn something? Be open minded to the possibilities instead of researching w/an agenda to attack others.

Say, did you order those beginner tactical books that I recommended for you? They'll do the trick if you do your homework.

BTW, I don't have a source tag, an event tag, or a site tag, but I'm still a real bear. You're trying too hard to skirt the issue.

# # #

Your lovin' lap dog tried to rescue you again <perfidouche> and made you both look like chess fools in the process. All your years of needlessly insulting ol' FTB and others are biting you in the bum as your brain power keeeps slippin' away.

No matter how you and your buzzards try, there's no covering up your NINE move blunder <perfidouche>. The recommendation for you is obvious: "Improving Your Chess: The Nine Bad Moves and How to Avoid Them" by Fred Reinfeld. It's "the second book of chess" if that helps.

Jul-18-22  stone free or die: Again <Fred>, you don't even realize I was pointing out a potential mistake. It's rather amazing, your superlative level of obliviousness. You're frothing at the muzzle, so anxious to attack me personally, that your blinded.

Either you, or wikipedia, are wrong about what constitutes a <Philidor (Legacy) Mate>.

Look, when I first started working on tacticals, I just wanted to know the patterns, and didn't care about the names. A bit ironic (that's called foreshadowing, btw).

Anyways, our game ends here because of <smothered mate>, but not a <Philidor Legacy Mate> - at least according to wiki.

Wiki gives the <Phiidor Mate> as a specific form of a <smothered mate>, with a characteristic knight maneuver from (to be specific) from f7 to h6 (with double check) and back to f7.

Anyways, here's the wiki example:

(White to move)

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We don't have this pattern here in this game. So either wiki is wrong, or <fraud> is. I know where I'd put my money.


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  MissScarlett: Time for a match between the <fraud> and the <ignorant>. The winner gets a title shot outdoors in the ballpark with User: harrylime and the loser gets a one-way ticket to Palookaville.

The parties are requested to signal their provisional acceptance.

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  perfidious: Laying -400 on the prop of <'the ignorant'> over <'fraud'>.

Easy game.

Jul-19-22  stone free or die: <Missy> since you're here (begetting the question why?)...

Is Philidor's Legacy part of your vernacular?

What's the difference between a smothered mate and a Phildor, or would that be telling?

Do you think this is from a real game?

Who's going to replace Boris?

How about you and I having a match up instead?

I'm going to the Catskills for training.


Jul-19-22  stone free or die: Oh, and one more thing...

There must be a better rhyme than <snitch>, but I couldn't figure out how to scratch that itch - perhaps you could suggest an improvement?

Cheers ducky.


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  fredthebear: If Z<fraud> plays Z <ignorant>, somebody will have to keep chess notation for it.

Prior to June 29, 2022 stone free or die was using the sock puppet account Z free or die.

<stone free or die
Member since Jun-29-22
To stone, or not to stone? That is Z-question.>

Here's another aliass by Z's own admission:

<Z truth
Member since Sep-08-18
Zanzibar's alternative account - please direct all heat here!>

Truth is in short supply on the Z network.

Jul-22-22  stone free or die: Pity poor piddling peanut-brittle.

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