Aug-30-02
 | | Sneaky: Don't let this happen to you! |
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| Nov-26-02 | | Chess Champ: OK, what happened here? Excuse me... Anyway, the Benko Gambit should be called the Milan Momic Gambit, he used it first not some Benko or whoever... Volga Gambit. |
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| Nov-26-02 | | Cyphelium: In Sweden we have had discussion about this opening's correct name in one of the two chess magazines and some people have claimed that it should be called "The Kaiser Gambit", since someone named Fritz Kaiser played it in Stockholm in the 40:s. Perhaps every country has someone who played this before Benko did. I find a bit strange though, because to my knowledge there is no consensus that an opening should be named after the person who first played it. Indeed, most openings are not. |
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Nov-26-02
| | Sneaky: I've played these exact moves with the White pieces, perhaps a dozen times, during Blitz games. It's the natural consequence of falling for the trap 7. ...Nxe4? |
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| Nov-26-02 | | refutor: the two traps i get all the time in blitz games are 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bc4 Nc6? (or more commonly 5. ... Nc6 and 6. ... a6) 7.Nxc6 bxc6 8.e5 dxe5?? 9.Bxf7+ Kxf7 10.Qxd8 1-0 and
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Bg4 4.dxe5 Bxf3 5.Qxf3 dxe5 6.Bc4 Nf6 7.Qb3 and something like ...b6 with mate following on e6 with the queen :) |
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| Nov-27-02 | | drukenknight: surely 8...f5 holds? |
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Nov-27-02
| | Sneaky: 8...f5 9.f3 and Black still loses a piece |
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| Nov-27-02 | | drukenknight: cant he just retreat the N? |
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| Nov-27-02 | | Bears092: Then the mate will still follow. How about 8... Qa5?? Then, 9. f3 Nf6 10. Nd6+ Kd8 leaves blacks king awkwardly placed, but he's still alive. |
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| Nov-27-02 | | drukenknight: I think Bears has the better answer. I was thining Ba6 myself but doesnt seem towork This mate is funny it resembles the combination I was shwoing to sneaky under the sicilian heading. |
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Nov-27-02
| | Sneaky: Bears, I don't get it, 8... Qa5 9. Qxe4 |
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| Nov-28-02 | | pawntificator: It's too late on move 8, taking that pawn on move 7 is foolhardy. |
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| Nov-29-02 | | Chess Champ: Cyph.
I think the Benko name should be changed...
Somebody email chessbase people and tell em
otheerwise we will just waste time talking to each other forever. What good is a good song if nobody can ever hear it... I know and I did a lot. |
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Nov-29-02
| | Sneaky: The Russkis of course like to call it the Volga gambit. In any case, yes the bottom line is that 7...Nxe4 is a mistake. The accepted move there is 7...d6 Now, after 7...d6 8.Bc4 and the pawn is still considered taboo, although the reasons behind this are much less clear. One possible continuation is 7...d6 8.Bc4 Nxe4?! 9.Qe2 Nf6 10.Bf4 Ra6 11.Nxd6! Rxd6 12.Bb5+ Rd7 13.Bxb8 +- |
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| Nov-29-02 | | Chess Champ: The Ruskis sounds better, otherwise
it sounds like Russssskis, like rush. |
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| Nov-29-02 | | Bears092: Touche, Sneaky |
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| Aug-01-03 | | AgentRgent: Pal Benko himself called it the Benoni Countergambit not the Benko gambit, but because he played and advocated it so extensively everyone else called it the Benko. |
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| Mar-17-06 | | MorphyMatt: What about 8... ♕b6? |
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Mar-17-06
| | Sneaky: 8...Qb6? 9.Qxe4 (note that the knight on b5 is still protected) Black is lost after 7...Nxe4? but there is one trick that Black might be able to pull off in a blitz game: 8...f5 9.f3 b3 10.fxe4 Qa5+ 11.Bd2 
click for larger view11...Qxa2(!) is an unsound attempt to mix things up. It works if White is the type to gobble material without thinking: 12.Rxa2? (12.Rc1!  ) bxa2 and the game suddenly has become very unclear. (Sneaky vs NN, FICS blitz) |
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| Mar-18-06 | | dakgootje: Ouch! Now i wont let this happen to me anymore (never did, but thats not important ;-) |
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| Mar-18-06 | | dakgootje: <refutor> the first trap is possible in a lot of positions i.e. J Krejcik vs H Suechting, 1908 but not everyone seems to know about it. Second one I didnt know, so nice that you posted that one also ;-) |
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| Jun-22-21 | | sea7kenp: Those Knights can get dangerous! |
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