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Semyon Furman vs Alexander Konstantinopolsky
USSR Championship (1948), Moscow URS, rd 14, Dec-03
Queen's Gambit Declined: Orthodox Defense. Botvinnik Variation (D60)  ·  1-0

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Jul-09-05  Happypuppet: <Greginctw> Looks like you posted while I did. Two problems I see with your variation: If 26... Re1+, e8 becomes an escape square for the king. Also, 28... Kd7 is not legal! Better for black there is 28... Kxf6.
Jul-09-05  Greginctw: I corrected it. I was posting variation from memory, but yeah re1+ i didnt calculate.

Jul-09-05  Happypuppet: Ironic as I suggest an illegal move as an alternative to your illegal move! I really must stop doing chess after midnight...
Jul-09-05  crafty: 26. ♖xf7 ♖e1+ 27. ♔h2 ♔xf7 28. ♖f5+ ♔e8 29. ♕c3   (eval 5.99; depth 13 ply; 500M nodes)
Jul-09-05  Happypuppet: Hmm... maybe there are two solutions to this puzzle then. Even then, I didn't solve it, as I didn't see Qc3 (or even bother with the position before). :(
Jul-09-05
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  al wazir: Also winning is 26. Qc3 Re1+ (if 26...Nf6 or 26...Qh6 then 27. Nf6+ Kh8 28. Nxe8 Bxe8 Rgxg7) 27. Qxe1 Bxd5 28. Rgxg7, followed by Qh4, etc.
Jul-09-05  crafty: 26. ♕c3 ♘g6 27. f5 b4 28. ♘xb4 ♘e5 29. ♘xa6 ♕xd3   (eval 1.78; depth 12 ply; 500M nodes)
Jul-09-05  EmperorAtahualpa: Unusually easy puzzle for Saturdays!
Jul-09-05  controlaltdelete: 28. Rc6 wins black queen
Jul-09-05  jahhaj: <controlaltdelete> It does but after 28...♖xc6 29.♕xc6 ♘g6 Black is still fighting. But after the game move he is totally lost.
Jul-09-05  Eric Xanthus: This puzzle really tied me in a knot. There are so many squares you want to take advantage of! Wouldn't you like to drop the knight on e7 or f6? capture on f7? g7? h7? use the queen on the g-file, or keep her where she is to use a discovery?

I took a hard look at Rxf7 like <Happypuppet> and <Greginctw>, and used Greg's line. I'm happy to see that crafty thinks it's pretty good. But I'm annoyed that after looking at Rxg7, I didn't see the follow-up with Qc3+. How I missed that, I don't know.

Jul-09-05  snowie: I knew I had seen this one b 4, I like 26 Bxh7..Kxf7 27 Rxf7 and white wins easily with R/7xg7, etc. But the one suggested: Rxf7 is a good one followed by Kxf7 27 Rf5+..Kg8 28 Ne7 double check..Kh8 28 Qg8M!
Jul-09-05  John Doe: For y'all with experience, would you consider this solved:

I calculated the line of the king stepping back in until mate, but the king stepping out I just calculated until Rxf7.

After that I figured white had a mating attack...

Jul-09-05  tasaka: Greginctw ty chyba w szachy nie grywasz
Jul-09-05  farrooj: what?
Jul-09-05  Rocafella: Just rolls off your tongue eh <Greginctw ty chyba w szachy nie grywasz> ??? :-|
Jul-09-05  jahhaj: <John Doe> I think it depends on whether you were confident of the mating attack because you saw it in the position of the pieces, or whether you were confident because chessgames.com told you there was a win to be had. Only you can answer that.
Jul-09-05  Rocafella: <jahhag> Very good comment. The answer lies in the sub-conscious mind...
Jul-09-05  farrooj: you know what rolls off the tongue? <bouncebackability> Dortmund page, 3 days ago, talking about a kramnik comeback
Jul-09-05  Rocafella: <farooj> Yep thanks once again to soccer.am for putting that in The Oxford English Dictionary!
Jul-09-05  jamesmaskell: yeah I think I said that. It was a football term. It could relate to chess though = the ability to comeback from a weak position in chess.
Jul-09-05  InspiredByMorphy: <Happypuppet> I too thought the solution was 26.Rxf7
Jul-09-05
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  al wazir: <crafty>: I meant 26...Ne6, not 26...Nf6. If instead 26...Ng6 27. f5 b4 as you suggest, then 28. fxg6 bxc3 29. gxf7+ Kh8 30. fxe8(Q) Rxe8 31. g3. White has a R, B, and N for a Q, with mating threats.
Jul-09-05
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  Richard Taylor: I was calculating R:f7 (worked out it is nice but doesnt quite win) after I had decided Rxg7+ win but I thought white had a mate on h7 taking the position back I saw the complete combination - but OTB I would hopefully have concentrated and reaslised that both g4 and Be2 are not possible
Jun-09-08  mezzieh: About tasaka's comment: 'Ty chyba w szachy nie grywasz' is written in Polish. It means 'looks like you don't play chess too often'. I am from Poland, but I agree all members of this forum should accept English as a chat language.
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