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Shredder (Computer) vs Gambit Tiger (Computer)
Computer Chess Match Tournament (2001), Cadaques ESP, rd 5, Jan-02
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal Variation. Bishop Attack Classical Defense (E48)  ·  0-1



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Sep-18-05  atrifix: This whole combination, beginning with 47... Nd2, is amazing, although the game as a whole is subpar. I missed this one.
Sep-18-05  dac1990: The iron friend, Fritz, has this to say:

47 ...Nd2!! 48.Bxd2

[48.fxe3 Nxf1 49.Kxf1 Rxe3 ]

48 ...exf2+

[48 ...exd2? 49.Qxd2 Ra2 50.Rc2 =]


[49.Kh2? Bxg2! 50.Qa2+ Rxa2 ]

49 ...Rxe2!! (49 ...Rxh3!! also could have worked) 50.Rxe2 Rxh3! 51.gxh3

[51.Re8+ Kg7 52.Re7+ Kh6 53.Rxh7+ Kxh7 54.Kf1 Bxg2+! 55.Kg1 Qg3 56.any move Rh1#]

51. ...Qg3+ 52.Kf1 Qxh3+

[52 ...Qf3+? <the king runs!> 53.Rf2 Qxh3+ 54.Ke1 Qh1+ 55.Rf1 Qh4+ 56.Kd1 ]


[53.Ke1 Qh1+ 54.Kf2 Qg2+ 55.Ke1 Qg1#;
53.Kg1 Qh1+ 54.Kf2 Qg2+ 55.Ke3 Qg3#]

53 ...Qxg2+ 54.Ke1 Qg3+ 55.Kd1

[55.Ke2 Bf3+ 56.Kd3 Be4+ 57.Ke2 Qf3+ 58.Ke1 Bxc2 59.Rxc2 Qe4+ 60.Kd1 Qxd4 ]

55 ...Bb3! 56.Qxb3+ Qxb3+ 57.Ke1

I'm sure that no more analysis is necessary beyond this point. If you see an error in the analysis, please post it: Fritz is not, nor ever will be, perfect.

Sep-18-05  Shrivel Up DEVO: <
ckr: >
Nonsense! Give yourself a C. I got all the checks too, except for the mighty pin. As it says in the the little paperback "Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess," you have to watch the whole board!

Well, Larry Evans probably said it since I don't think Fischer even wrote the book.

Sep-18-05  sharpnova: why are spammers like <CAPA2422> allowed on this site? does chessgames do nothing about this type of behavior? CAPA2422's post was completely irelevant to this topic.. it was just blatant advertising.
Sep-18-05  c o r e: Today I get the sunday zero. :/
Clever clever computers.
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  kevin86: A good combination by black! A queen pin is the perfect finish to this one.

The winner deserves a good lube job! lol

Sep-18-05  jahhaj: <ckr: I believe I spelt his name backwards> It is easily done!
Sep-18-05  Greginctw: Dang it i probably couild have solved it. Am i the only one who didnt even try because the combination of Sunday plus computers seemed to daunting? Its actually a forcing sequence. I figured it would be much more subtle and beyond my head.
Sep-18-05  jbcoops: OK... brand new here... sure I'm missing something... but what about 49... a3h3 50g2h3 h4g4 does white continue without being mated or losing significant material?
Sep-18-05  blingice: <jbcoops> well for one that would get black's queen taken by the pawn, and it doesn't check the king in the right order. Also, try to learn algebraic notation, not from-to notation.
Sep-18-05  blingice: And you must eliminate the knight first, so that the queen can check the king.
Sep-18-05  jbcoops: ok... I knew I was an idiot on that one... I guess I have to be a paying member to get to use the game board? Trying to play it in my head... no good here!
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  WannaBe: <jbcoops> ??? Use the arrows to move the pieces or click on a move to 'jump' to that move.
Sep-18-05  ckr: <jahhaj> My sincere apoligies, it will not happen again.
Sep-18-05  sitzkrieg: @ Sataran:
I suggest improve ur middle game with on of these fine books (in not so random order; the first is best if u really start out with chess strategty):

Euwe, Practical chess lessons volume 2. (or alternatively "master against amateur", "Amateur becomes Master" and "Master against master" "trilogy")

Bronstein, D., The Zurich international chess tournament

Kotov, A., Think like a Grandmaster

After these three u know all there is to know and can start working on less general themes.

Of course there are a lot more good middlegame books but I like the books above in particular.

Sep-18-05  sitzkrieg: I was thinking are there any alternatives to 47 Qc2? And what are they?
Sep-18-05  loudubb: Hey Sharpnova:

1st: Your post is also irrelevant.

2nd: Look @ Capa2422 posting history, i didnt see any Spamming. Do u know what spamming is?

3rd: theres a difference between providing a tip to become a better chess player (which i welcome) and frequent and "blantant" spamming.

Sep-19-05  shortsight: As always, when someone critisizing a post as irrelevant, the critics himself committed the same fault of posting an irrelevant post.
Sep-19-05  jbcoops: wannabe... I know I can replay the game by clicking... what I wanted to do was play *myself* from a specific move to see the possibilities. I'm not a great player by any means... and probably shouldn't have posted my initial kibitz!
Sep-19-05  ckr: <jbcoops> the board (MyChess) is only a viewer. To play select the 'view' option and copy/paste the pgn file into the engine of your choice.

<shouldn't have posted my initial kibitz!> I imagine that if everyone felt that way there would be nobody to kibitz with. :)

Sep-19-05  lopium: Chessgames, in the kibitzes tricks I didn't see how to jump a line. To make a paragraph or so.... is it with the Space Bar??
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  WannaBe: <jbcoops> If you choose <sjkbase> as your viewer (sucky graphics) you can actually move the pieces. I change viewers depending if I just want to view the moves (default viewer)or 'play' a certain move (sjkbase).

<lopium> what do you mean by jump a line? Don't you use <enter/return> key?

Sep-19-05  lopium: I do but it never works. look, the next word I'll type it with "enter".

this one.

Sep-19-05  lopium: First time it works, I promise!!! I've ever tried hundreds of times, believing it would have worked... what a problem!!! And I sill can'T kibitze on a page of Spassky, which I am the only one in that case. What a strange thing!!! lolz.
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  WannaBe: peers at lopium with a really weird look... =)
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