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John Owen vs Paul Morphy
Odds match (1858) (unorthodox), London ENG, rd 2, Aug-??
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Mar-09-03  Rookpawn: Some players of Morphy's day thought that odds of a pawn and a move favored Black because he could start an attack down the f-file!
Mar-09-03  drukenknight: if morphy had sacked the Q on move 8, then this game becomes legendary.
Mar-30-05  RookFile: Hmm. This is interesting. Do you mean to say that 8... Nxe4 9. Bxd8 Nxc3 is favorable to black? Trying to figure that out looks like a good way to get a headache. I wonder what the computer thinks?
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  keypusher: 8...Nxe4 9 Bxd8 Nxc3 10 bc Bxc3+ 11 Kf1 Bxa1 12 Qxa1 Kxd8 13 d5 looks to me like it loses for Black.

The position after move 40 is very funny: 41 Rxc7 e2 and Black can't be prevented from getting a new queen. Quite a swindle by Morphy, who certainly should have lost this game.

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  Pawn and Two: With his large material advantage, the good Rev. Owen should have allowed Morphy to queen his pawn. By playing 41.Rxc7 e2 42.Rxg7 e1Q 43.Rxg6+, White still has enough to win this game.
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Perhaps Owen was concerned about Black's chances of playing ...Qe2+. Offhand, I can't tell if this really is a problem.
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  Pawn and Two: <An Englishman> You are probably correct that Owen was concerned about allowing an active Queen so near his King. If this was his concern, it was incorrect.

After 41.Rxc7 e2 42.Rxg7 e1Q 43.Rxg6+ Kc5 44.Re6 White has the situation under control. The Queen must now retreat and White can next play 45.Rb3.

May-01-06  PolishPentium: Your friendly neighbourhood PolishPentium does not understand why P.M. did not immediately play 24... Rxh2+, winning the White Q by discovered attack. Sure, he'll end up giving away a R and a B, but Q + p seems like pretty decent compensation for sure... If this reasoning is flawed, please show me the error of my ways. Regards, P.P.
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  keypusher: <PP> White would still wind up with two rooks and a knight for the queen after 24...Rxh2+ 25 Rxh2 Bxd1 26 Rxf4. Morphy should have lost after the game continuation anyway.
Apr-25-07  wolfmaster: <keypusher> True, Black is down a point in material, but I wouldn't mind playing it out.
Jan-30-09  WhiteRook48: although there were some troubles Morphy had in this game...

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