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David Bronstein vs Chessmaster (Computer)
The Hague AEGON (1995), The Hague NED, rd 5, May-02
Sicilian Defense: Wing Gambit. Marshall Variation (B20)  ·  1-0

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Oct-13-02  pawntificator: I'd like to see some newer chessmaster games... did they ever pit the new chessmaster against fritz or deep blue or any of the other top computers?
Oct-13-02  drukenknight: This game is freakin idiotic, gobbling up a doubled pawn on move 4. Hey chessmaster 4...bxa3 for starters. 10 Qe2 way better, even kids can see that. 12 Nh4 way better. Forget it what am I doing. guys this is strictly fooling around stuff, Bronstein was playing computer back in 60s you ought to look at those games, probably they were better.
Jul-16-04  Vischer: i think the 4th move was correct, dk not bxa3
Jul-28-04  chess4games: Good ending. I don't think the early version of Chessmaster is stronger than the program now. Good game.
Mar-23-07  mattzap: Here Bronstein plays my favourite opening to thwart computer. In reply to drunkenknight, 4... bxa3 is what most, if they were going to play it as black, would have played on move 3. However, playing it is doing exactly what white wants you to do, especially if your king's pawn is still on e7.

Regarding 10 Qe2 way better, I think I disagree because as a rule of thumb you don't usually offer queen swaps if you are a pawn down.

Regarding 12 Nh4, yes I agree this would have been better BUT for some reason black never played Qxg2 so its prime usefulness was never needed!

Mar-21-08  The Rocket: "pawntificator" Chessmaster is also known nowdays as "The King" so search games with that name on chessgames. The king did play the world computer championship(in 2007) with a realtively weak performance with only a win and a draw, however it has drawn top computer Shredder in 2006 and it is currently ranked 15 on the chess engine list:http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccr... a slightly older version of chessmaster actually has beaten rybka! so it is a very good engine.
Aug-26-08  JustWoodshifting: <The Rocket>
I agree with you that "The King" is not as bad an engine as many at chessgames.com have said it is. I have Chessmaster 10th Ed. The big difference with CMX and the top engines (Rybka, HIARCS, Shredder, etc.) is in the size of the database and the time it takes to calculate the correct move in any given position. To play at a higher level, I have found that downloading games to it's database and setting the time control to 3 to 6 hours per move really helps. In the games we, as World Team, have played against the GM's, it came up with the same move (about 95% of the time) as Rybka in any given position, by setting the time limit to 6 hours per move. I really can't complain about spending $10 (Cdn) for the program!
Jan-04-09  WhiteRook48: why did the computer resign? Or did it run out of time? Plus, this guy is not a Chessmaster.
Aug-18-09  Luckyicekiller: Hey...what's the tactic I'm missing after 14. d5?
Aug-18-09  birthtimes: 14. d5 O-O-O
Aug-18-09  birthtimes: 36...Rc2??? Chessmaster must have blown a circuit before this move...
Aug-18-09  WhiteRook48: well what was the correct move?
Aug-18-09  vulcan20: WhiteRook48: 36...Kh7! is strongest, since Rd8 is met by ...Rxc7!
Aug-19-09  WhiteRook48: what about 37 Rd7?
Aug-20-09  vulcan20: Then 37...Rc1+ 38. Kg2 Rc2+ 39. Kg3 (39. Kf1 Re8!) g5! is drawn, according to Fritz.

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