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Harlow Bussey Daly vs Franklin Knowles Young
10th PNCCA Tournament Semi-Final (1907) (correspondence), corr
Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Main Line (C29)  ·  0-1



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Nov-12-09  jahhaj: Is this game for real? Even for correspondence chess the quality of play seems exceptional. In the whole tactical sequence from 11...Qxd4 to 25...Kxd6 the only moves you can clearly criticize are the initial 11...Qxd4 (11...Qh6 and Black is a piece ahead) and 24.Qd6+ (24.Qxe5 is to be preferred although White's still in trouble).

Neither of these two are top class masters and Young was an eccentric, so I just wondered.

Feb-28-11  Amarande: 24 Qxe5 appears to be illegal: White's trying to take a White Pawn. I'm guessing you mean 24 Qxe4, and, indeed, I'm not exactly sure what the clear-cut winning plan is after 24 ... Qxe4+ 25 Kb2 (now Black cannot take the e-pawn as there is 26 Re1 - either Rook - and White would win). In fact it's hard to see that position as anything other than even: the material is virtually even (depending on your assessment of Q v. 2R with equal Pawns) and while Black has a temporary advantage on account of a more active Queen I don't see anything immediate coming of it: 25 ... Qe2+ 26 Kb3 Qb5+ (he still can't take the Pawn) 27 Kc2 is going nowhere fast, nor does 25 ... Qg2+ snag anything, and if Black takes the time to get his King off of the e-file in order to threaten Qxe5, then 26 Rae1 looks to hold everything ...

In the final position, I would have probably played on a couple of moves as White, as there's a slight glimmer: 40 Rc3+ Kb4 41 Rb3+ and now Black must be sure to play the winning 41 ... Ka5! (after which White has no more tricks: 42 Rb5+ Kxa4 and Black is safely winning), but 41 ... Kxa4??? of course allows a draw (42 Ra3+, and the perpetual is almost perfect in its beauty, Black's Pawn pleasingly blocking the one square by which Black's King could hope to break free of the cage created by White's King and d6-Rook). At correspondence, it's probably too much to hope for, but it's worth a shot ...

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  Phony Benoni: <Amarande: In the final position:

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I would have probably played on a couple of moves as White, as there's a slight glimmer: 40 Rc3+ Kb4 41 Rb3+ and now Black must be sure to play the winning 41 ... Ka5! (after which White has no more tricks: 42 Rb5+ Kxa4 and Black is safely winning), but 41 ... Kxa4???

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of course allows a draw (42 Ra3+, and the perpetual is almost perfect in its beauty, Black's Pawn pleasingly blocking the one square by which Black's King could hope to break free of the cage created by White's King and d6-Rook)>

After <41...Kxa4>, that would indeed be a lovely perpetual. So lovely, I think even Black would have been satisfied with it.

I agree that Daly might as well have gone for it. But he still had over 60 years of chess ahead of him, and was probably anxious to get started.

Mar-05-12  thendcomes: After 41 ... Kxa4??, Ra6#
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  Phony Benoni: Another game that needs am accirate date.

"1911" probably comes from its publication in the "American Chess Bulletin, December 1911, p. 278, as part of a report giving the final results of the tenth annual Pillsbury National Correspondence Chess Association annual tournament, which was won by Young.

The thought of his postcards staggers the imagination.

ACB does not give the date of the tournament, but has this headnote to the game:

<"The following reprinted from Lasker's Chess Magazine, was played in the second round of the semi-finals of the foregoing tournament...">

The point being that :asker's Chess Magazine ceased publication in June, 1909, so the game must have been played some time before that date.

That's about as far as I can take it, though.

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  Phony Benoni: I have learned that the game appears in Lasker's Chess Magazine, volume 6, May-October 1907, p. 259-260. .

In the absence of further information, I'm changing the date to 1907 for now. Though it may have actually started in 1906, the page numbers indicate it was published near the end of the year. Also, the game probably moved relatively quickly since oth players lived in the Boston area.

Jan-07-19  Deus Ex Alekhina: Phony, how do I access the archives of Michigan Chess? I don't see a way to do it now, but there was a way to see back issues previously. Do you have a FIDE rating? I think FIDE sends out some official notification if you become eligible for a title, not sure what all those title (CM, FM, NM, IM) mean, rating-wise.
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  Phony Benoni: Wish Ii knew how to access the MCA archives. For years, they were attached to a page that wasn't being update, and I guess it finally died completely.

I had a FIDE rating at one point that wea actually higher than my USCF rating. But it seems to have expired. Doesn't matter, since I will probably never play again.

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  perfidious: <DEA>, perhaps <zanzibar> has some bright ideas--it is indeed regrettable that access is no longer possible.
Jan-07-19  zanzibar: <perf>, <pb> this pops up near the top of a google search:

Looks incomplete, but it's a start.


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  jnpope: I know the MCA moved the website to a few different servers over the years after I gave up being the webmaster in 2006. I kept paying for the old server which I believe they linked to via IP address as a sort of archive. I kept tabs on things periodically and once I saw that they were no longer linking to the old server I stopped paying for it and it was decommissioned.

The issues of the Michigan Chess Bulletin that I scanned are still available for download here:

I think the old issues of Michigan Chess Online are still reachable via

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  jnpope: I think I have copies of everything on that checklist posted at Chessarch... I really need to finishing scanning those things in someday...
Jan-07-19  zanzibar: <<jnpope> I really need to finishing scanning those things in someday...>

Sounds like me...

Thanks for your reply (and everything else you've done for the community at large!).

Oh, and Happy New Years.

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  Phony Benoni: <jnpope> My thanks as well. I downloaded a number of the archived issues from the 70s-90s, but didn't get them all. Drat, drat and double drat.
Dec-25-20  cameosis: late to the party (as usual) --

does it make sense to contact them in regard to the pdf files or do you guys believe it’s not worth the effort? sitting in germany, so digital access only.

i have found the following issue (december 1974), which isn’t on the chessarch list -- i've uploaded it. the issue is notable for having an obituary and short biography on leon stolzenberg, a nice bonus.

<phony benoni> if you have any of the other issues floating around, and if time permits, i’d appreciate a share. thanks!

Apr-09-22  Mathematicar: Just crazy.

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