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Igor-Alexandre Nataf vs Keith Arkell
FRA-chT (2001), Mulhouse FRA, rd 5, Mar-30
French Defense: Rubinstein. Fort Knox Variation (C10)  ·  1-0

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Oct-11-04  themindset: black simply has no good moves.
Oct-11-04  Jesuitic Calvinist: Thanks for drawing my attention to this game, the <mindset>. It is extraordinary to see a GM paralysed like this in just 15 moves.
Oct-11-04
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  tpstar: <Jesuitic Calvinist> One major drawback to 5 ... Bc6 is how Black can't play for ... c5 without trading on f3 which is good for White. Do you think 8. Ned2 is superior to 8. Neg5 or 8. Ng3 instead? And why didn't Black play 8 ... Be7 & 9 ... 0-0 with a decent game? Thank you.
Oct-11-04  Jesuitic Calvinist: Yes, ...Bc6 looks unnatural, doesn't it?

I do think 8.Ned2 was superior to either 8.Neg5 or 8.Ng3. If 8.Neg5, then I think Black can simply drive it away with ...h6. If 8.Ng3, the knight does not have much scope from there. As we saw in the game, the Ned2/c4/a5 manouvre was strong. It also looks unnatural to retreat the knight in this way, but Black's development had not been quick, so White could afford to invest that time.

As for why not the natural development of ...Be7 and ...OO for Black, I don't know. It seems that Black wanted to be original in the opening, particularly with his bishops. It certainly did not work here.

Oct-11-04
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  tpstar: <JC> You might be interested to compare Y Pelletier vs E Sedina, 2004 with 8. Ned2 Be7 9. Nc4 b6!? instead.

Thank you very much for your thoughtful, thorough, and neatly composed response, especially after such an eventful weekend.

Oct-11-04  InspiredByMorphy: <tpstar> I know Im on the wrong page but I wanted to say thank you very much for all the input youve given me on the Kings gambit. Youve taught me alot about playing the black side and just when I gave up hope of playing it anymore... you showed me IMDay's powerful analysis involving 6.Ng1 . If we ever meet over the board Im buying you a case of beer!
Oct-11-04
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  tpstar: <InspiredByMorphy> Friend, thank you very much for analyzing this opening together! I think we both learned a lot in the process. Do I have to drink the beer before we play?!
Oct-12-04  InspiredByMorphy: <tpstar> I replied to your last kibitz concerning 6.Ng1 King's Gambit Accepted (C34) When you get a chance you should check it out.
Oct-21-04  themindset: 5...Bc6 is awkward looking, but accepted theory, i believe.
Oct-21-04  acirce: Yes, that is the point of 4..Bd7. Other 5th moves are virtually unseen. The main option is 4..Nd7 though.
Oct-21-04  Saruman: The threat is 17.Rxe6+! fxe6 18.Qxe6+ Kf8 19.Qf7#. If 17.-Kf8 18.Re7! mates. Of course not 17.-0-0? 18.Ne7+. After 16.-Kf8 white wins easily with Qa3+!.
Dec-23-08
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  GIAaron: This was Igor's terrible revenge for my equally brief win against him(again with me being Black) in the Hastings summer tournament of 95.
Dec-23-08  whiskeyrebel: GIAaron, as a patzer trying to improve, may I ask how you as an accomplished master get back up off of the floor after ugly losses like this?
Dec-24-08
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  GIAaron: Hi whiskeyrebel.
Interesting question.This kind of thing doesn't happen very often at GM level,and of course can only happen after a poor move or idea.In this case the poor move/idea was 8..g6??.This experimental idea was simply too extravagant,although motivated by lofty positional principles. It is actually very easy to bounce back after losing such a game,because you know that you will simply not repeat the move again. The kind of loss that is harder to deal with IMHO is when you play at your very best-your deepest chess,but still the other guy slowly,steadily outplays you. At these moments you are starkly confronted with your limitations.

I hope this helps,whiskeyrebel.

Dec-25-08  whiskeyrebel: Thanks for your perspective. The same can be said about winning a miniature due to a similar reason or grinding somebody down utilizing all your ability.
Dec-25-08
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  GIAaron: Yes but my point is that from the loser's perspective it's eaasier to deal with a rare moment of craziness(eg Petrosian left his Queen en prize once) than to be at one's best but still lose(this of course provided that such moments of craziness don't happen too often!)

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