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Vladimir Kramnik vs Alexander Morozevich
"Moro Never Knows" (game of the day Nov-13-2014)
Dortmund Sparkassen (2001), Dortmund GER, rd 4, Jul-15
Slav Defense: Quiet Variation. Schallopp Defense (D12)  ·  1-0



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Jan-09-04  crafty: 38. ... ♖gg8 39. a4 ♖c6 40. g5 e5 41. ♔g4   (eval 2.62; depth 18 ply; 750M nodes)
Jan-09-04  Hidden Skillz: lol i appreciate dat ughaibu..
Jan-10-04  patzer2: With the exchange down and even pawn count, White's win is not so obvious after 38. h5! Yet, the winning technique is instructive and potentially useful in practical play.

Fritz 8 analyzes the win after 38. h5! (@20 depth & 787kN/s) as follows:

1. ((2.56) 38...Rh6 39. Bg5 Rc7 40. Bd2 e5 41. Bxh6 Kxh6 42. dxe5 Rxc5 43. Rxf7 Rc2 44. Rf6+ Kh7 45. Rf2

2. (2.97) 38...Rgg8 39. Kh4 a4 40. g5 Rc7 41. Be5 Re7 42. c6 Rc8 43. Rf6 Kg8

3. (3.19) 38...Rg7 39. g5 e5 40. Rf5 exd4 41. Bxd4 Re8 42. Bxg7 Kxg7 43. Rxd5 Re4 44. c6 Rc4 45. Rd6 a4

4. (3.72) 38...Rxf6 39. Rxf6 Kg7 40. g5 e5 41. dxe5 Rxc5 42. h6+ Kg8 43. e6 fxe6 44. Rxe6 Rc8 45. Rd6 Kh7 46. Kg4 d4 47. Rd7+

Jan-10-04  Dick Brain: Black is totally blocked out of couterplay while White penetrates with the rook (and eventually the king) after advancing the king and g-pawn and pulling the bishop back to e5. patzer2's variation #2 shows the strategy.
Aug-30-04  JoeyCJK: Down an exchange but totally in control... What a way to win! Really shows Kramnik's depth. The strength of the idea overshadows the material disadvantage.
Dec-23-04  Whitehat1963: 29. Bxf6 is a gutsy move.
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  Honza Cervenka: Total paralysis of black. Nice game.
Feb-28-08  Trudodyr: Very nice game by Kramnik. Facing him is a daunting task.
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  GrahamClayton: <JoeyCJK>Down an exchange but totally in control... What a way to win! Really shows Kramnik's depth. The strength of the idea overshadows the material disadvantage.

Great understanding of the position by Kramnik. He realises that of Black is able to play ...♘f5, his position is near impregnable. The knight will threaten d4 necessitating constant defence, hit the forward bishop, prevent advance of the h pawn and guard g7 - the only possible entry point for the white rooks.

The sacrifice of the exchange is totally acceptable to remove such an important piece.

Dec-09-11  MrSpock: 28. Be7! is hard to find and the key to the kingdom.
Nov-13-14  devere: 28.Be7!! is a brilliant move, perhaps the best of Kramnik's chess career.

Stockfish 5-64 doesn't consider 28.Be7!!, and is slow to recognize it's strength once it is played.

Nov-13-14  morfishine: <28...e5> looks better for Black: 28.Be7 e5 29.dxe5 Nf5 30.Bxf6 Rxc5 or 28...e5 29.Bxf6 Nf5 30.Bxe5 Nxg3
Nov-13-14  pedro99: Vlad is extraordinarily good at positional exchange sacs. He surpassed himself with a double version recently. Can anyone remember the game?
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  MJCB: Be7 si a move I would have categorically ruled out because of the obvious fork if I were to be white playing. No way I would think there is merit in such move. And here is Kramnik proving me wrong! I love it when an impossible looking move is played and I discover its depth through the remainder of the game... A bit like a child discovering magic...
Nov-13-14  devere: <morfishine: <28...e5> looks better for Black: 28.Be7 e5 29.dxe5 Nf5 30.Bxf6 Rxc5 or 28...e5 29.Bxf6 Nf5 30.Bxe5 Nxg3>

28...e5 does give Black more counterplay, but it seems Black is still losing after a continuation like 28...e5 29.Bxf6 Nf5 30.Rxe5 Nxg3 31.hxg3 Re8 32.Rxd5 Re2 33.Rf5 Rxb2 34.d5 Rxa2 35.d6 b4 36.d7 b3 37.c6 Rc2 38.Rxa5 Rg8 39.d8=Q Rxd8 40.Bxd8 b2 41.Rb5 Rc1+ 42.Kg2 b1=Q 43.Bg5+ Kxh5 44.Rxb1

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  kevin86: I think I can smell a mate on the way.
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  AvidChessMan: I did see the importance of white queen's bishop and it's relationship to the d5 and c4 pawns. I was more surprised by 29.Bf6 and only saw it's importance after 29...Ng3 30.fg3 - allowing white to walk the g and h pawns up the board escorted by the king. Black could not do any damage with it's rooks. A brilliant win by Kramnik!
Nov-13-14  RookFile: After 12. Ne4, a hacker like me would rather have the black pieces. I would think of either 12.....Nd5 right away, or 12..... Nbd7, to answer 13. Nxf6 with 13....Nxf6 and 14....Nd5. I'm sure white has some tactical possibilities with one of his knights to g5. Obviously Kramnik knew what he was doing in steering for this position, the play reminds one of Lasker making ugly positional moves for dynamic reasons.
Nov-14-14  DaGreenster: im curious, someone with an engine give me a courteous refutation of 13 ... bxc5 for black? im thinking 14. ng5 g6 15. qh4 h5 16. g4

i dont know, maybe thats why he didnt play bxc5. or was afraid of the rook lift for compensation of the pawn?

Nov-14-14  morfishine: <devere> Nice continuation! Thanx 4 looking
Nov-14-14  DaGreenster: hey come on now, is 13... bxc5 so heinous a move that no one even bothers with my query? at least tell me why
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  perfidious: <DaGreenster> While possessing no engine, on general grounds the variation you cite looks very dangerous for Black, and it is not at all surprising that Morozevich rejected it.
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  OhioChessFan: <DaG> At Black's 13th move, the b Pawn already on b5.
Nov-15-14  DaGreenster: i dont have a chess engine, which is why i was asking the community.

i meant bishop takes c5, not the bpawn

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  plang: 8..Be7 was a new move; 8..Nbd7 had been played previously. With 13..Qd5?! Black avoided a possible White mating attack but volunteered for an inferior endgame 13..Nd7 14 bf4..Rc8 would have left White with a small edge. It should be pointed out that 13..Bxc5?! would have been dubious after 14 Ng5..h6 15 Qh4..h5 16 g4 with a strong initiative for White. 14..exd 15 a4..Nd7 16 Re1..Bf6 17 Bf4 would also have been promising for White. Morozovich played 16..Nb8!? with the idea of ..f6 and ..Nc6 but after Kramnik's 17 Rd3 he apparently didn't like 17..f6 18 Nf3..Nc6 19 Re1..Kf7 20 Rde3..Nxd4 21 Nxd4..Bxc5 22 Rd3..Bxd4 23 Rxd4..e5 24 Bxe5 with a favorable double rook endgame for White. Kramnik was critical of 18..Bf6? recommending 18..f6 instead. Perhaps Black should have considered 22..f5 23 Ree3..Rg8 24 Rg3+..Kh6 25 Bf6 though White would have had a promising initiative.
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