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Tim Krabbe vs Vladimir Tukmakov
Orebro Stud olm fA (1966), Orebro SWE, rd 3, Aug-05
English Opening: Symmetrical Variation. Two Knights Line (A37)  ·  0-1



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  sachistu: An alternate version of this game has White playing 32.b4 (an easy transcription error for h4) which allows some different options than the version given here. That alternate version exists on Olimpbase and Chessbase.

In both versions, White makes the horrible blunder 36.Ke1?? (instead 36.Bg2!) It would appear this was likely a time-pressure mistake.

Anyone have the Orebro bulletins to help in determining the correct score?

Mar-31-16  luftforlife: <sachistu>: Wojciech Bartelski may have read your post. I'm not sure just how the score published at Olimpbase read at or about the time you posted, but the score there for this game from the "13th StudWTCh final A, round 3" now reads, in pertinent part, "32. h4." However, the score there ends with "36. . . . Re5." Hmm.

Here's a link:

Sometimes ex post analyses become unwelcome appendages to final scores. Not sure if that happened in the source from which the score here was taken. I'll keep digging. Kind regards.

Mar-31-16  luftforlife: <sachistu>: Tim KrabbĂ© has confirmed that the score as recited here on <> is completely correct. It tallies with his scorecard. He recalls that he had been in terrible time-trouble.
Mar-31-16  luftforlife: <Madjesoomalops>: Thank you!
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  sachistu: Hi <luftforlife> I should have mentioned I have had several communications with Wojtek about various questions, scores etc. I questioned both of the scores (Rivera and Krabbe).

At the time, the Olimpbase site had 32.b4. However, Wojtek acknowledged he did not know the source of that game score, and that (in his words) 32.b4 makes little or no sense. Evidently, he has updated the score since that conversation (albeit not completely). Thanks to your work and confirmation from Krabbe, we have firm foundation to let Wojtek know the score needs further updating. This is good news! Again, many thanks!

Mar-31-16  luftforlife: <sachistu>: You're welcome! I'm gratified to have been of assistance, and to have delivered good news and glad tidings. Feel free to reach out any time. Best wishes.

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