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Ferdinand Hellers vs Rafael Vaganian
"Fourth Circle of Hellers" (game of the day Oct-30-2012)
Reykjavik Open (1990), Reykjavik ISL, rd 4, Mar-20
French Defense: Classical. Burn Variation Main Line (C11)  ·  0-1



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Nov-29-06  suenteus po 147: Is it possible that Vaganian saw the end when he played 25...Qxd8? If so, that's incredible!
Nov-30-06  nescio: <suenteus po 147: Is it possible that Vaganian saw the end when he played 25...Qxd8? If so, that's incredible!> Perhaps it is possible, but unlikely imo, considering all the plausible alternatives for Black (28.Ndf6+, 29.Nef6+, 33.Ke2 to mention a few). He probably saw some mating patterns with the rooks and knight and expected (after a good bit of calculation of course) that he could keep White's somewhat tangled pieces occupied, so that the rook on h1 had no opportunity to be activated.
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  Phony Benoni: Just looked it up, and the Fourth Circle of Hell represents "Greed". Thought that might be the case.
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  al wazir: Why didn't white play 25. c8=Q ? If 25...Rxd8, then 26. Qg4 Ra1+ 27. Kc2. Now what?
Oct-30-12  Infohunter: <al wazir: Why didn't white play 25. c8=Q ? If 25...Rxd8, then 26. Qg4 Ra1+ 27. Kc2. Now what?>

Good question, meaning of course one that I can't answer. Maybe someone here will be able to do so.

Oct-30-12  bengalcat47: There is an ancient board game from India (I don't recall the name) which is similar to pachisi in that each player's piece has to pass thru many different levels of Hell, Earth, and Heaven before finally reaching the ultimate goal of Nirvana. This is a dice-rolling game, and the rules make it tough to escape many of the levels designated as part of "Hell."
Oct-30-12  sofouuk: <al wazir>28. Kc2 Rxh1 and rybka says -13.19 :) black has 2Rs for the Q and all manner of threats, including f5

on the other hand, after the game continuation white was simply winning up to here

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at which point he gave check with the wrong knight - instead 29. Nef6+! Kh8 30. Rb1! the king can escape to d1 and white has Q against R

Oct-30-12  sofouuk: i mean 27. Kc2 Rxh1
Oct-30-12  Infohunter: Thanks, <sofouuk>.
Oct-30-12  Abdel Irada: Regarding the pun: "Ogni speranza lasciate, voi ch'intrate" should be inscribed over the cell door of whoever is responsible for it when we dispatch him to the "pun"itentiary.
Oct-30-12  Infohunter: <Abdel Irada> Nice cross-linguistic "take" on today's pun. You are in rare form today.
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  HeMateMe: I'm convinced the pun voting booth is rigged.
Oct-30-12  Abdel Irada: <HeMateMe: I'm convinced the pun voting booth is rigged.>'

Has anyone checked to see if the vote-counting machine is labeled "Diebold"?

Oct-30-12  johnlspouge: < <Phony Benoni> wrote: Just looked it up, and the Fourth Circle of Hell represents "Greed". Thought that might be the case. >

Thanks, <Phony>. The following summary of the Circles of Hell

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also provides a link to a quiz that determines which of Dante's Circles is likely to furnish eternal accommodations for your soul.

Oct-30-12  castagno: I was asking myself the same al wazir's question, but my first response was 26.Qb7... and then?
Oct-31-12  kevin86: White has big advantage,then blows it in!

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