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Dec-02-07 | | DarthStapler: If this becomes GOTD, the pun should be "Enver's Game" |
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Dec-02-07 | | fictionist: Bukic slayed the giant Tal with Tal's style! |
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Jul-15-08 | | DeltaHawk: This game is amazing. So much risk taking involved. |
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Jul-15-08
 | | al wazir: 21...Ne8 and 22...Qd4 look like mistakes. Maybe 21...Rf8 instead? |
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Jul-15-08 | | Vollmer: If Tal is involved its gonna be a fun game win or lose . |
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Jul-15-08 | | Vollmer: Wait ... what ? I think this game illustrates the fun of chess . This is why most of us play . |
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Jul-15-08 | | Suji: I completely agree with <Vollmer>. It's games like this that keep most of us playing the game. We just have glimpses of the beauty in our games, and once in a while we have a game like this. |
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Jul-15-08 | | brankat: Knowing M.Tal, he must have been very happy with this game, regardless of the loss. |
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Jul-15-08
 | | patzer2: Wow! Tal really did get a tactical kick in the pants in this game. Bukic's surprise 31. Qxc8!! sets up a winning double attack after the practically forced sequence leading to 34. Be6! Tal is then forced to play 34...Rxe6, which still leaves him with a clearly lost position after Bukic's precise follow-up. Perhaps Tal could have avoided this mess by simplifying with 26...Bxc3 27. Qxc3+ Qd4 28. Qxd4 cxd4 =, but such a
drawish looking middle game was apparently not to his taste. |
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Jul-15-08 | | dehanne: <Tal really did get a tactical kick in the pants in this game.> Luckily it wasn't a fork or a skewer! ;-) |
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Jul-15-08
 | | patzer2: Tal probably saw the combination coming when he played 30...Rc8. The sad thing for him was that he really didn't have any good alternatives. For example if 30... Bxf5??, then White wins easily after 31. Rxf5 Re1+ 32. Kf2 Qe7 33. Ng5 Nf6 (33...Re5?? 34. Nf7+ ) 34. Rxf6 Qxf6+ 35. Kxe1 Re8+ 36. Ne6 . |
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Jul-15-08
 | | Jimfromprovidence: A lot of fireworks in this one.
What I particularly liked was the back-to-back move sequence beginning with 33…Qe7, which is forced on black, but ironically gives black a mate in one threat with Qe2#.  click for larger viewWhite’s response, 34 Be6, not only blocks black’s mate threat but produces his own mate-in-one threat, Rg8#.  click for larger view
That's pretty amazing stuff!
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Jul-15-08
 | | kevin86: Both sides indeed have their parry and thrust. In the end,however,the queen was unable to stop a lethal check and the pawn was just one square shy of where it needed to be. |
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Jul-15-08 | | euripides: White's Nc4-e3 and Black's loosening f5 remind me of Nimzowitsch vs Marshall, 1927
<patzer>'s <26...Bxc3 27. Qxc3+ Qd4 28. Qxd4 cxd4 => looks better for White to me after 29.Nxf5, when White's pieces look more active - as a result of his steady positional play. I don't know Bukic's games but this is a real gem, against one of the greatest masters of the Benoni. |
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Jul-15-08
 | | patzer2: <Euripides> <26...Bxc3 27. Qxc3+ Qd4 28. Qxd4 cxd4 = looks better for White to me after 29. Nxf5.> Actually, I like White's position here with 29. Nxf5 myself. However, after 29. Nxf5 Bxf5 30. Bxf5 Nc7 31. Ng5 Nxd5 32. Be6 Nc7 = I just don't see White having any real advantage. From here, for example, play could continue 33. Bb3 Rae8 34. Rh3 Kg7 35. Rg3 Kh8 36. Rf6 Re1+ 37. Kf2 R1e2+ 38. Kg1 Re1+ 39. Kf2 R1e2+ 40. Kg1 Re1+ =, when White has nothing better than a draw by perpetual check. |
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Jul-15-08 | | euripides: <patzer> after <26...Bxc3 27. Qxc3+ Qd4 28. Qxd4 cxd4 29. Nxf5 Bxf5 30. Bxf5 Nc7 31. Ng5 Nxd5> doesn't 32.Bxd7 Rxd7 33.Nf7+ win the exchange with good winning chances ? Unless Black has something fiendish with the d pawn. (A positional approach with 31.Bxd7 Rxd7 32.Nf4 also occurred to me). |
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Jul-15-08
 | | patzer2: <euripides> Time for a position check. After <26...Bxc3 27. Qxc3+ Qd4 28. Qxd4 cxd4 29. Nxf5 Bxf5 30. Bxf5 Nc7 31. Ng5 Nxd5>, this is the position I see (diagram below) click for larger view(32. White to move, and nothing to capture on d7).
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Jul-15-08
 | | fm avari viraf: A brilliant & sensational display of pyrotechnics till the very end where the ailing Tal had to surrender! The pun should be "Bukic in the pants" & "Tal in the fry pan" |
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Jul-15-08 | | euripides: <patzer> yes sorry I was looking at 29...Nxf5, but it turns out that the h6 knight is more valuable than the d7 bishop. |
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Jul-15-08
 | | Jimfromprovidence: Another real cool move was 37 Rf7.
 click for larger viewNotice how black cannot play 37...Qxe6 because of 38 Rxh7+!, forcing 38 Kxh7 followed by the knight fork 39 Ng5+.  click for larger view |
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Jul-15-08 | | tacite: Just wondering... what would happen if instead of 23.Nf2 white would have played 23.Bc3 |
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Jul-15-08 | | Longbrow: I don’t claim to know much about opening play, and I do see some justification (certainly do not want an enemy pawn posted on d6 by the 6th move) for the immediate 4…exd5, but is this a best- by- test forced opening response? It appeared to have significant ramifications to Black for the rest of the game. I would truly appreciate the education from anyone. |
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Jul-15-08 | | Longbrow: Benoni, Classical, 11.f3 (A79)
1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 c5 3 d5 e6 4 Nc3 exd5 5 cxd5 d6 6 e4 g6
7 Nf3 Bg7 8 Be2 O-O 9 Sorry to waste your time. White wins 46.3% |
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Jul-16-08 | | euripides: <Longbrow> In playing the Benoni, Black is usually aiming either for the kind of set up he gets here or for a more closed set up with pawns on e5 and c5. The set-up here, known as the 'modern Benoni', is probably sharper and more risky; Black gets a queenside majority and play on the long black diagonal and the e file against the e4 pawn, but if White can consolidate his strong centre is a big asset. In this game Tal's f5 breaks the White centre but leaves him with some weaknesses. Tal used this opening a lot at the start of his career and probably did more than anyone to make it respectable. |
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Jul-16-08 | | Longbrow: <euripides> I appreciate your time. It appears that the majority of the games utilizing this opening (at least on this website) result with a strong White attack on the Black King’s side of the board. Black usually seems to be in a positional disadvantage (for some of the reasons you stated) on the King’s side. As previously noted, it is not surprising to me that, pressure was maintained on f5-pressure is maintained on the entire Black King’s side. I see what the goal is for Black; however, it seems to me that if White plays soundly, he can maintain the advantage in this opening. This opening certainly lends itself to spirited and uncommon play-perhaps explaining some wins for Black. Apparently this opening has lost some popularity. |
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