Oct-21-08
 | | Benzol: Someone may have got confused between
Janis Kliavin and Janis Klovans but Peter Clarke's book on Mikhail Tal's Best Games has his opponent here as P. Kliavin. |
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May-09-14
 | | WCC Editing Project: <Benzol>
<Rusbase> http://al20102007.narod.ru/ch_urs/1... also gives this game as <Tal v. Kliavin>: [Event "Ch URS (1/4 final)"]
[Site "Vilnius (Lithuania)"]
[Date "1955.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Tal Mihail (LAT)"]
[Black "Kliavinsh Y (LAT)"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D45"]
[WhiteElo "0"]
[BlackElo "0"]
[Annotator ""]
[Source ""]
[Remark ""]
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Qc2 Bd6 7.Bd2
O-O 8.O-O-O c5 9.e4 cxd4 10.Nxd4 Bc5 11.Bg5 h6 12.Bh4 Bxd4 13.Rxd4
Qb6 14.Rd2 d4 15.Na4 Qa5 16.Rxd4 Qe1+ 17.Rd1 Qxe4 18.Qxe4 Nxe4
19.Bd3 Nec5 20.Nxc5 Nxc5 21.Bc2 b6 22.b4 Nb7 23.a3 e5 24.Be4
Rb8 25.Bg3 Re8 26.Bc6 Re7 27.Rhe1 f6 28.f4 Bg4 29.Rd4 exd4 30.Rxe7
Nd6 31.Rxa7 Nxc4 32.Bd5+ Kh8 33.f5 Rc8 34.Be6 d3 35.Bf4 Rd8 36.Bxc4
d2+ 37.Bxd2 Rc8 38.Be3 b5 39.Bc5 bxc4 40.Kc2 Bxf5+ 41.Kc3 Be6
42.a4 Rd8 43.Bd4 Bd5 44.b5 Bxg2 45.b6 Kg8 46.a5 g5 47.a6 f5 48.Rc7
f4 49.b7 1-0 |
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May-09-14
| | Benzol: I'm sorry I can't offer any more other than what I posted back in 2008. :( |
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May-10-14
| | WCC Editing Project: <Benzol> that's ok man- I think two separate sources are enough to get the player name changed to the correct Janis Klavins, once the admins merge that name with the other three spellings! But for sure Janis Klavins is not the same person as Janis Klovans, as you can see when they play in the same event here: http://al20102007.narod.ru/ch_repub... It would help if you could supply the page numbers from your reference source? |
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May-10-14
| | Benzol: <It would help if you could supply the page numbers from your reference source?> The game is number 5 in the book with the relevant pages being 34 to 37. However, I must repeat that the opponent is listed as P. Kliavin. |
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May-24-14
| | WCC Editing Project: <Benzol, Colleagues> Well according to
Alexander Khalifman et al, "Mikhail Tal - 8th World Champion" (PC-CD), this game was indeed played in <Vilnius>= against "Y Klianvish," who is now called Janis Klavins in our database. In addition- This game is from this event here, the only one <Tal> played in Vilnius in 1955: -<USSR Championship Quarterfinal 1955> In Vilnius (5 May - 3 June) Shared 3d with Chukaev, behind Kholmov and Nei, ahead of Gipslis, Klasups and Lein, with +7 -2 =8. [Di Felice, "Chess Results 1951-1955," p.507; http://al20102007.narod.ru/ch_urs/1...; "The Life and Games of Mikhail Tal," pp.31-33 ] Look at the crosstable: http://al20102007.narod.ru/ch_urs/1... "Klianvish" <Janis Klavis> played in the event, but <Janis Klovans> did not. This game has the wrong opponent listed for <Tal>. |
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May-30-14
| | WCC Editing Project:
More evidence this game was actually played between Tal and Janis Klavins: According to
Hilary Thomas, "Complete Games of Mikhail Tal 1936-1959" (Batsford, 1980), p.55, This game was played in <Vilnius> against Janis Klavins (Kliavin). |
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May-30-14
 | | perfidious: <WCC> If further evidence were needed, 365chess.com gives it as well, though the tournament is listed as a semifinal, not a quarterfinal. Also, I assume that Kliavinsh is still another variant of Klavin/Kliavin, as the latter (I think) would be pronounced that way. |
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May-30-14
| | WCC Editing Project:
<perfidous>
Thank you again!
I believe <Benzol> figured out what likely happened in this case in his first post on the game page. And again, you are spot on with this:
<Also, I assume that Kliavinsh is still another variant of Klavin/Kliavin, as the latter (I think) would be pronounced that way.> <Switch> not only demonstrated this, but it was his research a week or so ago that led to cg.com consolidating all the variants into the "one true" Janis Klavins. |
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Kibitzing
sac: 39.Bc5