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Oct-16-10 | | whiteshark: <Tridel> And even if they did, there's nothing wrong with an alternative approach. And isn't successful marketing about reiteration, too? |
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Oct-16-10 | | Dimitrije Mandic: Can anyone point me to a detailed analysis of this game, with annotations? Although I don't need those examples made of whole games for theory, just the critical lines that could've been played throughout the game. |
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Oct-16-10 | | BobCrisp: As opposed to a detailed analysis without annotations? |
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Oct-16-10 | | sfm: Have no clue about the current theory, but I don't like 8.dxc5 - too friendly. 10.b3 makes sense, but White is a bit behind in development. Why not 12.Ncxd2 instead of 12.Ndxd2 ? 13.Nf4? is terrible. After 14.Qf3 Black hammers through. The "queen sacrifice" (R+N+P for the Q) kills off the white queens wing, and would have been a no-brainer for a Tal. Actually White fights back very well, creates counterchances, and lives much longer than I would have thought.
Was there a chance with 28.Nxe4 ? The black king is pretty much in the open and there are many checks to analyze. |
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Oct-16-10 | | talisman: according to the database...udris was never the same after this game. |
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Oct-16-10
 | | ketchuplover: <sfm>28.Nxe4 does look vexing |
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Oct-16-10 | | tarikhk: this game gives me a headache- so- many- complications. Analysing this game at home is a nightmare, let alone otb. Tal was a monster. |
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Oct-16-10
 | | ketchuplover: 28.Nxe4 fxe4 29.Qg5+ Kh8 30.Bb2+ Nxb2 31.Qe5+ should draw imo. |
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Oct-16-10 | | kevin86: Black promoted...and will do so again. |
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Oct-16-10 | | C4gambit: If you want to give up your queen, you should know how to use the others. |
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Oct-16-10 | | weisyschwarz: Pun: How about "undrissed"? |
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Oct-16-10 | | weisyschwarz: Or, if you want to keep it as is:
"U Can Hear A Pin Drop". |
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Oct-16-10 | | David2009: Dazzling Tal fireworks: but the modern computer (Crafty End Game Trainer) rains on the parade. The sacrifice is absolutely sound, but after 18 h3 the EGT suggests 18...Rd1+ 19 Kh2 Bd6 as stronger for Black. As the game went, the EGT suggests 28 Qe6+! as drawing e.g. 28...Kh8 29 Nxe4 fxe4 30 Qe7 Rg8 Qf6+ with perpetual check. Crafty EGT link to the sacrifice position  click for larger view (Udris vs Tal, 1953 White to play 17?) http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... The perpetual checks suggested by <rulo0801> do not quite work: after 28 Nxf5 (instead of 28 Qe6+!) Rxf5 29 Qe6+ Kg7 30 Qxe4 Black has Rh1+! and after 30 Qc8+ Rf8 31 Qc4 Rf7 32 Qc8+ Black has Kh8. Now 33 Qd4+ very nearly draws, but not quite: the variations become complex. Additional Crafty link to investigate the position at move 30:  click for larger view
(Udris vs Tal 1953 30?) http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t... |
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Oct-16-10 | | WhiteRook48: tal smashes his opponent again..... |
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Oct-18-10 | | njchess: What an amazing game from Tal! Udris must have been tearing his hair out as he gets within one move of checkmate, only to be totally undone; all after Tal exchanges his own queen for a rook and a passed pawn. Again, what an amazing game. |
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Jun-01-11 | | kevins55555: Tons of Black pieces on White's territory... lol |
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Jan-05-12 | | BadKnight: This game deserves more attention. |
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Jun-01-12 | | LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
Udris vs Tal, 1953.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF TAL.
Your score: 80 (par = 47)
LTJ |
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Jul-30-13 | | justin2seo: It is typical tal's sacrificing game!! |
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Mar-16-15 | | abadravi: I would resign after 19.... Rd1.
Monster Taal :) |
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Aug-27-18 | | CaringLuv: Nullifidian, Your analysis is a bit faulty though it's a good try. After 34...Nf6, 35.Qd6, Black has the strong 35...Qc5! And that shatters White's threats. |
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Feb-26-24
 | | Fusilli: I'm sure someone must have said this already, but I don't have time to check. White missed the draw with 30.Qc8+. He must have been totally dizzy by then! |
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Feb-26-24
 | | saffuna: Stockfish says 24...gxf4 lets white off with a draw. Black has to move the rook from f8 to allow the bishop on d6 to retreat to f8. |
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Feb-26-24
 | | Honza Cervenka: <Stockfish says 24...gxf4 lets white off with a draw.> Yes, but instead of 30.Bd2(?) white should have played 30.Qc8+ with such a long and crazy possible continuation: 30...Rf8 31.Qe6+ Kh8 32.Bb2+! Nxb2 33.Qe5+ Nf6 34.Nxf6 f1=N+! 35.Kg2 Nd3 36.Qe7 Nxe3+ 37.Kf3 Rf7 38.Qd8+ Kg7 39.Ne8+ Kg6 40.Qd6+ Kh5 41.Qe6 Rc7 42.Nxc7 Rxa1 43.Qe8+ Kh4 44.Qe7+ Kh5 45.Qxh7+ Kg5 46.Qg7+ Kh5 47.Qh7+ etc. |
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Feb-26-24
 | | Honza Cervenka: <Yes, but instead of 30.Bd2(?) white should have played 30.Qc8+ with such a long and crazy possible continuation: 30...Rf8 31.Qe6+ Kh8 32.Bb2+! Nxb2 33.Qe5+ Nf6 34.Nxf6 f1=N+! 35.Kg2 Nd3 36.Qe7 Nxe3+ 37.Kf3 Rf7 38.Qd8+ Kg7 39.Ne8+ Kg6 40.Qd6+ Kh5 41.Qe6 Rc7 42.Nxc7 Rxa1 43.Qe8+ Kh4 44.Qe7+ Kh5 45.Qxh7+ Kg5 46.Qg7+ Kh5 47.Qh7+ etc.> And if 40...Kg5, then 41.h4+ Kh5 42.Qe6 Rd7 43.Nf6+ Kxh4 44.Nxd7 Ng4 45.Qe7+ Kh5 46.Qxh7+ Kg5 (46...Nh6? 47.Nf6+ +-) 47.Qg7+ Kh4 48.Qh7+ etc. |
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