Viktor Korchnoi vs Alexey Suetin (1953) Alexey Sweatin'

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Viktor Korchnoi vs Alexey Suetin
"Alexey Sweatin'" (game of the day Nov-09-2009)
Vilnius (1953)
English Opening: Symmetrical. Rubinstein Variation (A34) · 1-0

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Nov-09-09		Starf1re: Interesting opening play by white!

Nov-09-09		mpl: Hyper Hyper modern chess! ;) "I want to see you sweat!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RStX...

Nov-09-09		wfarmia: why not 24.Ng7...

Nov-09-09		arnaud1959: 24.Ng7 Nbd3+ followed by Kxg7 leads apparently to nothing for white.

Nov-09-09		Paraconti: I have no idea how to understand Korchnoi's games. There's no flow or straightforward plan in his games- it's as if one player began the game, then a different player took up the game at some point, played for a few moves, then let someone else take over, and so on. Karpov's games and plans are so much easier to understand.

Nov-09-09		RandomVisitor: 4 minutes per move: Viktor Korchnoi - Alexey Suetin [A34] Vilnius Vilnius, 1953 [Rybka 3 ] 1.c4 Nf6 2.g3 c5 3.Bg2 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.Nc3 Nc7 6.f4 last book move 6...Nc6 0.44/19 7.b3= 0.00/20 [Rybka 3 : 7.Bxc6+ bxc6 8.Nf3 Nb5 9.Qa4 Nd4 10.0-0 g6 11.Ne5 f6 12.Nc4 Be6 13.d3 a6 14.Be3 Bg7 15.Bxd4 cxd4 16.Ne4 Bd5 17.Rac1 0-0 0.44/19 ] 7...e6 0.51/20 [Rybka 3 : 7...g6 8.Bb2 Bg7 9.Qc1 0-0 10.Ne4 Bxb2 11.Qxb2 Na6 12.Rc1 Qb6 13.Nf3 f6 14.h4 Bf5 15.Nc3 h5 16.Nd5 Qa5 17.Ne3 Be6 18.Qc2= 0.00/20 ] 8.Nf3= 0.11/19 [Rybka 3 : 8.Bxc6+ bxc6 9.Nf3 Nd5 10.Bb2 Nxc3 11.Bxc3 f6 12.0-0 Be7 13.d3 0-0 14.Rc1 Qd5 15.Qc2 Rd8 16.Ba5 Rf8 17.Bd2 0.51/20 ] 8...Be7= 0.18/20 [Rybka 3 : 8...f6 9.Ba3 Rb8 10.0-0 b6 11.Qe1 Bb7 12.Qf2 Qd7 13.Rfd1 Nd4 14.Bb2 Nxf3+ 15.Bxf3 Bxf3 16.Qxf3 Bd6= 0.11/19 ] 9.Bb2= 0.00/19 [Rybka 3 : 9.Ne5 Nxe5 10.fxe5 0-0 11.Bb2 Rb8 12.Qc2 b6 13.0-0 Bb7 14.Bxb7= 0.18/20 ] 9...0-0= 0.18/19 [Rybka 3 : 9...f6 10.h4 Qd7 11.h5 b6 12.h6 g6 13.Ne4 0-0 14.d4 Nd5 15.dxc5 f5 16.Neg5 Ne3 17.Qxd7 Bxd7 18.cxb6 axb6 19.Kf2 Nc2= 0.00/19 ] 10.Rc1= -0.01/19 [Rybka 3 : 10.Ne5 Nxe5 11.fxe5 Rb8 12.Qc2 b6 13.0-0 Bb7 14.Bxb7 Rxb7 15.Ne4 Nd5 16.Qd3 Nb4 17.Qc4 Rb8 18.a3 b5 19.Qc1= 0.18/19 ] 10...Rb8= 0.13/18 [Rybka 3 : 10...f6 11.0-0 b6 12.Ne5 Nxe5 13.Bxa8 Nxa8 14.fxe5 Qd4+ 15.e3 Qxe5 16.Qf3 Ba6 17.Rfe1 Rd8 18.d4 cxd4 19.Na4 Qb8 20.exd4 Bb7 21.Qc3 Rc8 22.Qd3 Nc7= -0.01/19 ] 11.Ne4= 0.03/21 [Rybka 3 : 11.0-0 b6 12.Ne5 Nxe5 13.fxe5 Qd7 14.Ne4= 0.13/18 ] 11...b6 0.03/19 12.Qc2 -0.36/18 [Rybka 3 : 12.0-0 Bb7 13.Ne5 Qe8 14.Nc4 Qd7 15.a4 f6 16.e3 Nb4 17.d4 cxd4 18.Bxd4 Ncd5 19.Qd2 Rfd8 20.Bf3 Nc6= 0.03/19 ] 12...Nb4= 0.00/21 [Rybka 3 : 12...Bb7 13.0-0 f6 14.Rfd1 Rc8 15.Nf2 Qd5 16.a3 Qh5 17.Rf1 Rcd8 -0.36/18 ] 13.Qb1 -0.20/19 Ba6= 0.09/19 [Rybka 3 : 13...Bb7 14.0-0 f6 15.Rfd1 Qd5 16.Nf2 Qh5 17.d4 Rfd8 18.dxc5 Bxc5 19.Bd4 Bd6 20.Bb2 Nc6 21.Rxd6 Rxd6 22.Ne4 Rd7 23.Bxf6 Rc8 24.Bb2= -0.20/19 ] 14.Neg5 -0.26/18 [Rybka 3 : 14.Ne5 Bb7 15.a3 Nba6 16.Nf3 f6 17.Qc2 Nb5 18.0-0 Qd7 19.d3 Rfd8 20.Nf2 Rbc8 21.e3 Nb8 22.Qe2 Bd5= 0.09/19 ] 14...g6 1.21/16 [Rybka 3 : 14...f5 15.Be5 Nbd5 16.Nh3 Bf6 17.Bxf6 gxf6 18.Nf2 Qd7 19.Nd3 Rfd8 20.a3 Ne7 21.Nb2 Bb7 22.Qd3 -0.26/18 ] 15.h4 0.47/19 [Rybka 3 : 15.a3 Bxg5 16.Nxg5 Bd3 17.exd3 Nxd3+ 18.Ke2 Nxc1+ 19.Rxc1 Qe7 20.Nf3 f6 21.Kf2 Rfd8 22.Qe4 Nd5 23.Kg1 a5 24.Bh3 1.21/16 ] 15...f6 0.61/18 16.Nh3= 0.06/18 [Rybka 3 : 16.h5 Nd3+ 17.exd3 Bxd3 18.Qa1 fxg5 19.hxg6 Bxg6 20.Ne5 Bf6 21.Nxg6 hxg6 22.Rc4 Ne8 23.Qb1 Qc7 24.Qxg6+ Qg7 25.Qxg7+ Bxg7 26.Bxg7 Nxg7 27.fxg5 Nf5 28.Rc3 Nd4 29.Be4 a5 30.Re3 Rbd8 31.Rh3 0.61/18 ] 16...Qe8 0.07/19 17.Nf2= 0.00/19 [Rybka 3 : 17.a3 Nc6 18.Ba1 Rd8 19.Nf2 Nd5 20.Qe4 Bc8 21.Ng4 h5 22.Nf2 Na5 23.Qc2 Ba6 24.Rb1 c4= 0.07/19 ] 17...Rd8= 0.21/19 [Rybka 3 : 17...Nbd5 18.Qc2 Nb4 19.Qb1= 0.00/19 ] 18.h5= 0.01/19 [Rybka 3 : 18.a3 Nbd5 19.h5 gxh5 20.e4 Bd6 21.e5 Be7 22.exf6= 0.21/19 ] 18...gxh5 0.21/17 19.g4 -0.52/19 [Rybka 3 : 19.a3 Nbd5 20.e4 Bd6 21.e5 Be7 22.exf6 Nxf6 23.b4 Qd7 24.Qc2 Bd3 25.Nxd3 Qxd3 26.Bxf6 Rxf6 27.Rxh5 Rf5 28.Rh3 Qxc2 29.Rxc2 Nb5 30.Ra2 Bf6 31.Bf1= 0.21/17 ] 19...Ncd5 -0.52/18 20.Rxh5 -0.61/17 Qg6? 1.35/18 [Rybka 3 : 20...f5 21.Be5 Nc6 22.a3 Bxe2 23.Kxe2 Nxe5 24.fxe5 Nf4+ 25.Kf1 Nxh5 26.gxh5 Qxh5 27.Qc2 Kh8 28.Qc4 Qg6 29.Nd3 Bg5 30.Kf2 Rg8 31.Rg1 Bh6 32.Bf1 Qf7 -0.61/17 ]

Nov-09-09		RandomVisitor: continued: 21.f5 1.09/16 exf5 1.91/19 [Rybka 3 : 21...Qg7 22.Rg5 fxg5 23.Bxg7 Kxg7 24.a3 Nc6 25.b4 exf5 26.gxf5 Bc8 27.bxc5 bxc5 28.Qb5 Bd7 29.Qb2+ Bf6 30.Qb7 Nf4 31.Rxc5 Rf7 32.Rxc6 Bxc6 33.Qxc6 Nxg2+ 34.Kf1 1.09/16 ] 22.Nh4 1.72/17 Qe8 2.33/17 [Rybka 3 : 22...Nf4 23.Nxg6 Nxg2+ 24.Kf1 hxg6 25.Kxg2 gxh5 26.Qxf5 Rf7 27.a3 Bc8 28.Qxh5 Nd5 29.Kf1 Be6 30.Ke1 Nf4 31.Qh2 Bd6 32.Qh6 Nd5 33.Qh1 Bg3 34.Qf3 Bh4 35.Rc4 Nc7 1.72/17 ] 23.Nxf5?? -0.44/19 [Rybka 3 : 23.Qxf5 Rf7 24.Be4 Bc8 25.Qf3 f5 26.Nxf5 Bxf5 27.Rxf5 Rxf5 28.Bxf5 Qf7 29.a3 Nc6 30.b4 Bf6 31.Bxf6 Qxf6 32.Qh1 h6 33.bxc5 bxc5 34.Rxc5 Nce7 35.Qf3 Kg7 36.Rc1 Qd6 37.Ne4 Qh2 38.Nc5 2.33/17 ] 23...Nf4 -0.44/16 24.Qe4 -0.44/19 Bd6 -0.37/18 25.Nxd6 -0.37/18 Nxg2 0.00/22 [Rybka 3 : 25...Qxe4 26.Ndxe4 Nxg2+ 27.Kf1 Nf4 -0.37/18 ] 26.Kf1 0.00/21 Qxe4 0.00/20 27.Nfxe4 0.00/22 Nf4 0.00/21 28.Rh2 0.00/19 Nbd5 0.47/19 [Rybka 3 : 28...Nxe2 29.Rxe2 Nd3 30.Rb1 Nf4 31.Nc4 Nxe2 32.Kxe2 Rfe8 33.d3 Bb7 34.Ncd2 Ba6 35.Nc4 Bb7 36.Ncd2 Ba6 37.Nc4 Bb7 38.Ncd2 Ba6 39.Nc4 Bb7 40.Ncd2 Ba6 41.Nc4 Bb7 42.Ncd2 Ba6 43.Nc4 Bb7= 0.00/19 ] 29.Re1 0.31/21 [Rybka 3 : 29.Rc4 Bxc4 30.bxc4 Ne7 31.Nf5 Nxf5 32.gxf5 Rde8 33.Nxf6+ Rxf6 34.Bxf6 Rf8 35.Rh6 Ng6 36.Bc3 Rxf5+ 37.Ke1 Rf7 38.d3 Kf8 39.Kd2 Ke7 40.a4 Ke6 41.a5 Kd7 42.Bb2 Kc6 0.47/19 ] 29...Rd7 0.31/19 30.d3 0.30/18 Ne3+ 0.30/23 31.Kf2 0.30/22 Nxg4+ 0.30/22 32.Kg3 0.30/20 Nxh2 0.30/23 33.Kxf4 0.20/22 h5 1.01/24 [Rybka 3 : 33...Rg7 34.Nxf6+ Rxf6+ 35.Bxf6 Rg4+ 36.Kf5 Rg6 37.Be5 Ng4 38.a3 Ne3+ 39.Ke4 Nc2 40.Rf1 Rg4+ 41.Kf3 Rg5 42.Bb2 Rd5 43.Rg1+ Kf8 44.Ne4 Bb7 45.Kf4 Nd4 46.Ke3 Rd7 47.Bxd4 cxd4+ 48.Kf4 Bxe4= 0.20/22 ] 34.Rh1 1.01/22 Ng4 1.01/23 35.Rxh5 0.72/22 Ne5 1.27/23 [Rybka 3 : 35...Rg7 36.Nf5 Bc8 37.Nxg7 Kxg7 38.Nd6 Kg6 39.Rh4 Nh6 40.Rh1 Nf7 41.Rg1+ Ng5 42.Rg3 Rh8 43.Ne4 Kf7 44.Nxg5+ fxg5+ 45.Rxg5 Rh2 46.Ke3 Bd7 47.Be5 Rh3+ 48.Kd2 0.72/22 ] 36.Kf5 1.15/21 Nc6? 5.12/24 [Rybka 3 : 36...Kg7 37.Bxe5 fxe5+ 38.Ke6 Rc7 39.Nf5+ Rxf5 40.Kxf5 Bc8+ 41.Kxe5 Re7+ 42.Kd6 Rd7+ 43.Kc6 Rf7 44.Rg5+ Kh6 45.Rg2 Bb7+ 46.Kd6 Bc8 47.Rf2 Rd7+ 48.Kc6 Re7 49.Kd5 Kg6 1.15/21 ] 37.Bxf6 4.74/24 Rg7 4.74/23 38.Ke6 4.69/21 Nb4? 7.50/17 [Rybka 3 : 38...Nd4+ 39.Bxd4 cxd4 40.Nf6+ Rxf6+ 41.Kxf6 Bb7 42.Rh4 Bc6 43.Nf5 Rf7+ 44.Ke5 Rh7 45.Rxh7 Kxh7 46.Kxd4 Bg2 47.e4 Kg8 48.Ke5 Kf8 49.Nd6 Bf1 50.d4 Ke7 51.Nc8+ 4.69/21 ] 39.Bxg7 7.22/17 Kxg7 7.49/17 40.Rg5+ 7.20/18 Kh7? #8/11 [Rybka 3 : 40...Kh6 41.Nf5+ 7.20/18 ] 41.Nf7? 9.18/18 [Rybka 3 : 41.Ke7 Bc4 #8/11 ] 41...Re8+? #10/7 [Rybka 3 : 41...Bc8+ 42.Ke7 9.18/18 ] 42.Kf6 #10/8 1-0

Nov-09-09		Sbetsho: Haipaa Haipaa!

Nov-09-09		kevin86: After a few spite checks by black,an Arabian type mate is in the offing.

Nov-09-09		Chessmensch: When I looked up Arabian Mate I found the following link: http://www.arabianmate.com/ Quite a surprise!!

Nov-09-09		fred lennox: This game may seem bizarre or confused, yet several of the moves are forced. 13...ba6 is clearly a bad move since it took the bishop out of the game. bb7 seems better. Also, realizing the king is a powerful piece, Steinitz considered it more powerful than a minor piece even in the middle game, will help understand this game better. Note, since he didn't 0-0 the king side was ripe for attack.

Nov-09-09		eternaloptimist: <Paraconti: I have no idea how to understand Korchnoi's games. There's no flow or straightforward plan in his games- it's as if one player began the game, then a different player took up the game at some point, played for a few moves, then let someone else take over, and so on. Karpov's games and plans are so much easier to understand.> LOL!! :D I couldn't have said it any better myself. Here is a comment that I made last year that relates w/ this @ this game.: Keres vs Korchnoi, 1959 : "...I think some of Korchnoi's biggest faults were (sometimes): 1)He didn't look far enough ahead. 2)He didn't try to figure out his opponent's plan (or couldn't). 3)His positional understanding was suspect in certain positions which led to tactical shots by his opponent. I think these were the main reasons he never became world champion". I think these r some of the main reasons why what u said is true. Also, Karpov's games r much more instructive because of what u pointed out. <Chessmensch> LOL!! That was quite a surprise for u I'm sure.

Nov-09-09		Check It Out: This is a nice game. Korchnoi's initial attack is fierce, but Suetin survives with a seemingly decent counterattack, and wins the exchange. But then white's king becomes The Man, and marches right up the board to finally make # inevitable. Excellent!

Nov-09-09		ROO.BOOKAROO: This is an interesting mating position. Not Anastasia's but with some similarity. Black has no real defense against the mate with 43. Rg7 or 43. Rh6, and can only delay things by throwing away material in short-lived checks

Nov-09-09		WhiteRook48: Korchnoi kicked his opponent

Nov-09-09		Doms355: what about 24.Rg5+....then if 24..Ng6..then 25.Be4..??make sense?

Nov-09-09		Doms355: if 24...Kh8..then 25.Ne4(following Nf6)

Nov-09-09		RandomVisitor: Black could have tried 33...Rg7 34.Nxf6+ Rxf6+ 35.Bxf6 and now: 1: Viktor Korchnoi - Alexey Suetin, Vilnius 1953 click for larger view Analysis by Rybka 3 : <27-ply> <1. (0.24): 35...Rg4+> 36.Kf5 Rg6 37.Be5 Ng4 38.a3 Ne3+ 39.Ke4 Nc2 40.Rf1 Rg4+ 41.Kf3 Rg5 42.Bb2 Rd5 43.Rg1+ Kf8 44.Ne4 Nd4+ 45.Bxd4 Rxd4 46.Ke3 Bb7 47.Rf1+ Kg7 48.Ng5 Bc8 49.b4 Rd5 50.Ne4 cxb4 2. (0.35): 35...Rg6 36.Be7 Rg4+ 37.Ke3 Rg3+ 38.Ke4 Rg7 39.Nf5 Bb7+ 40.Ke3 Rg2 41.Bd6 Ng4+ 42.Kd2 Rf2 43.Ng3 Nf6 44.Bb8 h5 45.Rg1 Rg2 46.Rxg2 Bxg2 47.Nxh5 Nxh5 48.Bxa7 b5 49.a4 bxa4 50.bxa4 c4

Nov-09-09		Milesdei: The fearlessness of Korchnoi's play is what really impresses. He leaves his King uncastled, weathers tremendous pressure against his e2 pawn, sacrifices an exchange, and uses black's f pawn as a screen against the rook as he walks his king into enemy territory. His position looks like it's hanging by a hair, but then he smashes through black's king side defense and before you know it, black's king is surrounded with any possible defenders hopelessly out of play on the queen side. Bravo Viktor!

Nov-10-09		RandomVisitor: 23.Qxf5! Rf7 24.Be4 and now white is winning: 1: Viktor Korchnoi - Alexey Suetin, Vilnius 1953 click for larger view Analysis by Rybka 3 : <18-ply> 1. (2.31): 24...Bc8 25.Qf3 f5 26.Nxf5 Bxf5 27.Rxf5 Rxf5 28.Bxf5 Bh4 29.Rc4 Qf7 30.Qh3 Bxf2+ 31.Kxf2 Re8 32.Qh5 Qxh5 33.gxh5 Re7 34.Re4 Rxe4 35.Bxe4 Ne7 36.a3 Nbc6 37.Bc3 Nd4 38.b4 2. (2.35): 24...Bf8 25.Rxh7 Qd7 26.Qg6+ Rg7 27.Rxg7+ Qxg7 28.a3 Nc6 29.b4 Bb5 30.Qf5 Nce7 31.Qe6+ Qf7 32.Qxf7+ Kxf7 33.bxc5 Nf4 34.cxb6 axb6 35.e3 Ne6 36.Bb1 Bc6 37.Rc4 b5 38.Rc1 Ng5 39.Ke2 Bg7

Aug-07-17		Saniyat24: Incredible game by Korchnoi and Suetin certainly had his hand in making the game such a beautiful game...those who have the view that Korchnoi only waited for his opponent's mistake...simply do not know what an attacking, tactical player Korchnoi was...he was attacking in his openings, and after he found the edge, he waited for further initiative, because he was very good in the end game...but there were other games, where by his tactical attacking play he simply crushed his opponent...he really was an all-round player... p.s- the pun was good too...!

Aug-07-17		ChessHigherCat: I think Korchnoi should have played 16. h5 instead of withdrawing the knight. For example: 16. h5 fxg5 17. hxg6 Bf6 18. gxh7+ Kf7 (Kh8 19. Ne5) 19. Nxg5+ Ke8 20. Qg6+ Kd7 21. Bxf6 Rxf6 22. Qg7+ Qe7 23. h8=Q Rxh8 24. Qxh8

Aug-08-17		beatgiant: <ChessHigherCat> <16. h5> Great find! One also has to look at the counterplay with <16...Nd3+> or <16...Bd3>. 16. h5!! Nd3+ 17. exd3 Bxd3 18. Qa1 fxg5 19. hxg6 Bxg6 <20. Ne5> and I don't see how Black can parry all the threats. 16. h5 Bd3 17. exd3 Nxd3+ 18. Kf1 Nxb2 19. Nxh7 <Qd3+> manages to survive to the endgame, albeit a hopeless-looking one after 20. Qxd3 Nxd3 21. Nxf8 Nxc1 22. Nxg6. But maybe White can improve with a different king move on move 18.

Aug-08-17		ChessHigherCat: <beatgiant> Thanks, I was expecting you to prove why it doesn't work :-) Another interesting line is 16. Nxh7 Kxh7 17. h5 f5 18. hxg6+ Kxg6 19. g4 Bf6 20. gxf5+ exf5 21. Nh4+ Kf7 22. Qxf5 Bc8 23. Qg6+ Ke7 24. Nf5+ which must mate eventually. Retreating the knight like that seemed kind of chickensh..., I mean pusillanimous :-), so I figured there must be something better.

Aug-12-17		Toribio3: The black king is cornered. He has no escape. Viva Viktor!

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