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Alexey Shirov vs Lembit Oll
Tilburg rapid (1992), Tilburg NED, rd 2, Oct-??
Semi-Slav Defense: Botvinnik System (D44)  ·  1-0



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Dec-02-02  Kulla Tierchen: Oll is another who suffered from brain fever and took his own life. Here 20...Nc6 no doubt exacerbated his woes.
Dec-03-02  Vilkacis: 20...Nd7 was correct.
Dec-03-02  Sylvester: How come so many great chess players are mental and kill themselves?
Dec-03-02  pawntificator: That question cannot be answered. Only real chess players know why, and can't rightly say. hee ha hmm hwa!
Dec-03-02  Kulla Tierchen: I have a speculation. I dismiss the Freudian theories that concentrate on the symbolism of chess because the paranoia which afflicts many great chess players is prevalent among the greatest mathematicians. Cantor, Godel, Turing, and Nash for example. Both areas involve highly abstract ideas that have no reference in reality, and both subjects are inexhaustible by the human mind. Examination suggests that those in both areas with "normal" family lives and outside interests, especially a grounding in the humanities, are less prone to severe mental disorder.
Dec-03-02  Kenneth Sterling: I tend to agree with this explanation.
Dec-03-02  drukenknight: I think more has to do with those who have photographic memory. I knew a few people who had this trait and they all seemed to be self destructive. It was as if most things in life were too easy to grasp and they needed something else to dull the sharp senses of the mind.

The recent movie about Nash also made me think about this. Is it possible that they see things so vividly they are more prone to delusion?

Dec-03-02  pawntificator: Maybe it has something to do with the concrete nature of chess and mathematics. The kind of genius that can grasp such things would surely go crazy in this world of ours, in which so much is left unknown.
Dec-03-02  refutor: no doubt you have to be a little off to play this line v. tchirov ;)
Sep-07-05  MUG: 19...Rxd5? and 20...Nc6? are pretty bad moves, but I don't think it was 'brain fever' that effected Oll here. Apparently he used only 4 minutes for the entire game, so clearly he had a train to catch! :-)

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