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Carl Schlechter vs Emanuel Lasker
"Helter Schlechter" (game of the day Jan-07-2022)
Lasker - Schlechter World Championship Match (1910), Vienna AUH, rd 5, Jan-22
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. Closed Bernstein Variation (C66)  ·  1-0



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Jan-28-11  Llawdogg: Carl "Hannibal" Schlechter showed that he had the skills and the killer instincts to defeat Lasker and become the World Chess Champion. Go Hannibal Schlechter!
Jan-29-11  AnalyzeThis: He starved to death. I remember reading one book that said "poor, half-famished Schlechter - what a great fighter he was!"
Jan-29-11  BobCrisp: Ilmar Raud is also said to have died alone, cold, hungry, scared, forgotten....
Dec-10-11  TheMacMan: black had great position until time blunder
Mar-19-13  jszigeti: Referring to the above:
"This is Schlechter’s first and only win in this match and the second and last time he ever defeated Lasker. But Lasker didn’t equalize until the final game (game 10), thereby retaining the world title, probably to his surprise if his public comments the day before are any guide."

The part about "thereby retaining the world title," is missing some critical detail. (Reference: Evans on Chess 1974 pg. 42) Lasker had match conditions that specified that he would retain the title unless Schlechter won by two points until a return match. (Compare that to Botvinnik, and Fischer conditions later on !) Thus Schlechter uncharacteristically went all out to get the extra point but lost instead. Lasker would have retained the title with a draw as well albeit with a slight string attached, a return match that most likely never would have happened between Lasker's artful avoidance of the most dangerous challenges (e.g. Akiba Rubenstein at his peak, and Capablanca for as long as possible by means of diffcult match conditions) and the interference of WWI when Schlechter would die before it ended.

Nov-25-15  offramp: <thebribri8: I hate Capablanca's annotations.>

Some players aren't designed for annotations. They look at a position and they think, "It's pretty obvious what's going on here... There's no need to mention the alternatives here, it's obvious..." and they end up writing very little. I think that was Capablanca's problem. Things were so clear to him, he thought they were obvious to everyone and that there was no need to explain anything.

But he did do at least one very good set of notes, see F Alexander vs G A Thomas, 1919.

Mar-06-16  amaurobius: <AnalyzeThis> Reference your post of Jan-29-11, the book you are thinking of is Hans Kmoch's Rubinstein's Chess Masterpieces (Game 46).
Apr-13-17  Howard: Is anyone here aware that the ending to this remarkable game is very thoroughly analyzed in Nunn's book on Lasker's games?

You might want to take a look at it---personally, I've not had much time to do so, but I intend to!

Apr-13-17  morfishine: <Howard> The road to pure Nirvana and happy Karma is paved with solid bricks of well thought-out intentions


Apr-03-18  offramp: The earlier posts of <visayanbraindoctor> seem incomprehensible nowadays owing to the absence of + and - signs, e.g.

<<44. Qb4> ( 1.68)

<First three engine preferences>: <44. Qc3> ( 0.78); <44. Rb2> ( 0.79); <44. Rc1> ( 0.89) White’s move crosses the 1.40 threshold into a lost game for White and is therefore classified as a blunder.>

Many of these evaluations should be preceded by a minus sign.

Without them the computer analysis becomes garbage.

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  manselton: Some of Stockfish-8 assessments are revised by Stockfish-10. Position after 47.Ra4

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SF10 still gives 47...Kd7 as best move but 47...c4 is still just about winning! Black remains winning until the blunder on move 54...Qc5?? Position after 54.Kg2 (! Shereshevsky side-stepping the check on e5 so renewing the threat of 55.Qa6.)

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But SF10 now says 54...c3! introducing the resource of ...Qe4+ is still winning e.g. 55.Qa7+ Rb7 56.Qe3 Rb6 57.Ra7+? Kb8

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or 55.Re8 Kb6 56.Qa8 Kc5

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  manselton: After 47.Ra4 Kd7 (Instead of 47...c4 as played by Lasker)

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SF10 also gives an interesting line. 48.Qa1 Rxe4 49.Ra8 (If 49.Ra7+ Ke6 50.Rxg7 Rf4 Black looks safe and winning to me.) 49...Re2 50.Qa4+ Kc7 51.Ra7+ Kb6 Unbelievable! The King escapes to d5 by running toward the White heavy pieces. 52.Qa5+ Kc6 53.Rxg7 Kd5

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Oct-21-20  saintdufus: <PizzatheHut: Could someone help here? The note after move 49 reads "Drawish position".>

I was about to say "there's no note after move 49," but then I read the comments and realized there must have been some weird bogus annotation thing going on, which eventually corrected over the years.

Dec-22-20  ColdSong: The main thing in this game is Lasker's choice to expose his king Imo.Interesting Idea...for strong computers.A mere human,even Lasker,risks instant disaster endlessly playing this way.And that's actually what happened.
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  al wazir: 57. Qxf6+ wins equally well: 57...Kc8 58. Qe6+ Kd8 59. Qd7# or 57...Ke8 58. Qf7+ Kd8 59. Qd7#.
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  HeMateMe: Beatles themed puns? Hmm...I think we've seen <Day Tripper> here. Perhaps a Ringo themed pun is called for?
Jan-07-22  RookFile: <A mere human,even Lasker,risks instant disaster>

As Kirk said in Star Trek, risk is part of the game if you want to sit in the captain's chair. Computer says that with 54.....c3 Lasker is clearly better and it's white fighting to stay alive.

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  An Englishman: Good Evening: This has always constituted one of the hardest games for me to understand. Of course, today we have the silicon monsters to do all of the work for us, but in the pre-computer era it amazed me that White, with only Q & R, could penetrate a defense that included Q, R, 2 pawns, and the King itself.
Jan-07-22  igiene: As far I know, " Day Tripper" is a song written by Paul & John, not by Ringo. Maybe " Whit a little help by my pieces".
Jan-07-22  goodevans: <An Englishman: [...] Of course, today we have the silicon monsters to do all of the work for us...>

A lot of the work but not all. Computers are always seeking the objectively best moves rather than the ones that give the best practical chances.

In this game Lasker, having cocked up on move 54 and finding himself in a sorry predicament, had the chance of making a bit of a fist of it next move with <55...c3>.

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This allows White the opportunity to win Black's Q with <56.Rc8+> but after <56...Kd7 57.Rxc5 Rxc5> the R supporting the P's advance gives excellent drawing chances.

Of course Schlechter would probably have realised that and continued <56.Ra7+> as in the game but even then having the c-pawn one square nearer promotion would have given him a bit more to think about.

It's the fact that computers don't pick up on these practical considerations that makes it worth us humans continuing to exercise our own intellects.

Jan-07-22  nevetsjy: Whoever comes up with these 'puns', doesn't know what a pun is.
Jan-07-22  nevetsjy: Capablanca is a near pointless annotator.
Jan-07-22  Petrosianic: They know what a pun is, they just don't know what a rhyme is.
Jan-07-22  nevetsjy: Haha, you couldn't be more wrong. At least 'Helter' and 'Schlechter' rhyme, 'Schlecht' sounds nothing like 'Skelt' on the other hand.
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  Willber G: <al wazir: 57. Qxf6+ wins equally well>


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