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Georg Rotlewi vs Akiba Rubinstein
"Rubinstein's Immortal" (game of the day Jan-06-2009)
Lodz (1907), Lodz RUE, rd 6, Dec-26
Tarrasch Defense: Symmetrical Variation (D32)  ·  0-1

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Oct-31-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: I don't understand the constant need to attach the word "Immortal" to a good chess game. What does it signify?

A W Fox vs C Curt, 1906 could just as easily be called "Immortal". It is still with us and is one year <older> than Rotlewi vs Rubinstein, 1907.

So A W Fox vs C Curt, 1906 could be called <The Immortaller Game">.

Oct-31-15  morfishine: <offramp> On your comment: <I don't understand the constant need to attach the word "Immortal" to a good chess game. What does it signify?> I don't either and I find it irritating and pointless. It all started with "The Immortal Game" Anderssen vs Kieseritzky, 1851 which pretty much monopolized "immortal" chess games by attaching the narrowing word "The" to the front. This left all others the only option being to attach their own name: Kasparov's immortal, Topalov's immortal, Karpov's immortal, etc. But all this defies logic since all games since the mid 1850's have been carefully preserved, and digitally archived, so all games are "immortal" in a sense. But really, the word "immortal" doesn't even connotate quality, but merely longevity to the point of never going away. There has to be a better adjective

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Oct-31-15
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  offramp: <morfishine>, across the ether I shake your hand.

Your final sentence is perfect:

<There has to be a better adjective>.

That, mon ami, is superb.

And I'll suggest one:

"Rubinstein's Masterpiece".

Which is rubbish - but it IS a suggestion.

Oct-31-15  zanzibar: Immortaller - there's a concept...

Somebody should do a chess send-up of this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIa...

(Tuck & Patti - Better than Anything)

Nov-01-15  morfishine: <offramp> Regarding poker-faced, deadpan wit: you are the master while I am a grasshopper...but I keep trying

The problem traces to the human being's flawed yet persistent proclivity to simplify things to "one". I guess this allows them to sleep better. Its spread to other sports. In American football we are offended by such inaccurate titles as "The Drive" or "The Catch" when there are plenty of other great drives and catches arguably even better. But in chess, is there a single game by, lets say, Nezhmetdinov, that can be described with the prefix "The"? We must answer this with an earsplitting "No". There are simply too many great and varied games by "Super Nez" that its impossible to narrow the list down to one; but lazy humans lacking in sleep will no doubt attempt to

Sorry <offramp> I had to dupe this post since I forgot to include your username in the initial post

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Nov-01-15  zanzibar: (Yeah, but when it comes to "poker-faced, deadpan wit" we all knew exactly to whom you were referring)
Nov-02-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: <morfishine: <offramp> Regarding poker-faced, deadpan wit: you are the master while I am a grasshopper...but I keep trying.>

Thank you! Sometimes, I don't get my own jokes!

Nov-06-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: There's a slight problem with the term 'masterpiece' -- it originally signified any piece of work produced by a journeyman or trainee craftsman as one of the requirements for Master Craftsman status. Or Master Craftsperson, for that matter. While it should be of pretty good quality, no transcendent brilliance is implied.

In time, things got hyperbolical, as they do. By the time we reach the 1960s, and Bob Dylan's "One day everything is going to be different, when I paint my masterpiece", hype is in the ascendant. Of course the Dylan song is itself a stab at masterpiece quality, if not immortality.

There's always 'brilliancy'.

Nov-06-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  moronovich: Hi´<Dom> !

"I came so far for beauty
I left so much behind
My patience and my family
My masterpiece unsigned
I thought I´d be rewarded
For such a lonely choice".

Leonard Cohen.I am shure you know it.
My favourite lyrics of his.One can see the contours of a man who one day may take refugee in a monastery.

Gufeld called his best game "My Mona Lisa".

Nov-06-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: <moronovich> Of course, thanks for reminding me -- I really like that Cohen song as well, plus I enjoyed Gufeld's book 'The Quest for Mona Lisa'.

How could I have overlooked Lenny and Fast Eddie?

Nov-07-15  SuperPatzer77: <LevonKarapetyan> 22...Rxc3!!! (O divine), 23. Bxb7 Rxg3! - then White King is under the heavy attack - unable to escape from the threatening mates.

Take a look at Karpova's commentary so, White is NOT winning after 23. Bxb7.

SuperPatzer77

Nov-21-15  anandrulez: I came to this game because Anand compares his win over Aronian from 2013 to this game in this Youtube link from Tata Steel press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?featu... Nice ideas from Rubenstein in this game.
Jan-23-16  N.O.F. NAJDORF: I agree with Phony Benoni. I have long thought there is a strong similarity between the two games, on account of the power of the black bishop pair, although Fischer's dark-squared bishop never actually gets to take on d4 or go to e3 via h6.
Jan-24-16  DraganChase: Hi all. I have a limited knowledge about the game. Why didnt the queen take the white bishop in the end Qxf4?
Jan-24-16  DraganChase: I mean the bishop in e4 :/
Jan-24-16  DraganChase: Argh snap!

Rxh2! Mate

Jul-23-16  Toribio3: The power of two bishops was demonstrated by Akiva.
Dec-03-16  hemy: This game was played in round 6 of Lodz tournament at December 26th 1907, Gregorian calendar (December 13th 1907 by Julian calendar). Source: Latvian newspaper in German language "Düna Zeitung" 1908.01.19, page 22.
Feb-01-17
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  offramp: <morfishine: <offramp> On your comment: <I don't understand the constant need to attach the word "Immortal" to a good chess game. What does it signify?> I don't either and I find it irritating and pointless. It all started with "The Immortal Game" Anderssen vs Kieseritzky, 1851...>

I have found one game where the adjective might fit: J Thor vs E Scholl, 1966.

Apr-01-17
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  thegoodanarchist: <offramp: I don't understand the constant need to attach the word "Immortal" to a good chess game. What does it signify?

A W Fox vs C Curt, 1906 could just as easily be called "Immortal". It is still with us and is one year <older> than Rotlewi vs Rubinstein, 1907.

So A W Fox vs C Curt, 1906 could be called <The Immortaller Game">.>

The infinity plus 1 game!

May-03-17  pureredwhiteblu: I found this beautiful game after watching this great video on Rubinstein. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1P...
Sep-21-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: < offramp: <morfishine>, across the ether I shake your hand.

Your final sentence is perfect:

<There has to be a better adjective>.

That, mon ami, is superb.

And I'll suggest one:

"Rubinstein's Masterpiece".

Which is rubbish - but it IS a suggestion.>

However, Rubinstein's Rubbish has a ring to it...

Nov-17-17  Eduardo Bermudez: There are chessgames that last a day and are good. There are others that last a year and are better. There are those who endure many years, and they are very good. But those that last for more a century: those are the essentials
Nov-17-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: <Eduardo Bermudez: There are chessgames that last a day and are good. There are others that last a year and are better. There are those who endure many years, and they are very good. But those that last for more a century: those are the essentials>

I have applied to the South Dakota Congress of Elders to have these resounding words sculpted on to the other side of Mount Rushmore and they have said YEEEEES!!!

Jan-04-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_T....
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