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Harry Nelson Pillsbury vs Fernandez
Blindfold simul, 12b (1900) (blindfold), Havana CUB, Mar-16
Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit (C25)  ·  1-0

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Feb-27-12  LoveThatJoker: <srag> Why the need for e-mail, bro?

Just swing by my forum and talk Keres. I would enjoy hearing what your recommendations on books and opinions on the great Estonian GM are!

This is the link to LoveThatForum: User: LoveThatJoker

LTJ

Feb-27-12  Bobby Fiske: I guess this is the third most well known mate by white in the opening.
Feb-27-12  TheTamale: <amaurobius>: Yes, if you weren't familiar with the theme this would certainly be hard for a Monday.

It used to amaze me--still does--that masters are so able to exploit weak opening play, whereas hacks like me content ourselves to proceed with slight positional advantage.

Feb-27-12  Apoline48: Just want to point out that even if black position is a lost one, it's not yet a forced mate with 7...Be6 instead of comiting suicide with BxQ .
Even a bad player can ask himself why his oponent leaves his Queen en prise ! The real question is how to go on playing after this bad opening.
Feb-27-12  kevin86: Monday's puzzle:the Legal mate:queen sac followed by mate with the trio of minor pieces (poetically,equal to a queen)
Feb-27-12  kevin86: An addendum:reverse the white king and queen in the position and the move:Nxe5 would not be Legal,but ILLegal.
Feb-27-12  Robin01: Bravo, good puzzle. When Pillsbury was not baking, he was mating!:)
Feb-27-12  Memethecat: <srag> that's the 2nd time you've offered me, <LTJ> & <scromus> your email, I'm fairly new to the world of communication via a keyboard but if you are already talking to someone why would you offer to go somewhere to talk to someone?. <srag> if your listening speak up, this is a safe place to air your thoughts about Keres. Or <LTJ>s forum as its a bit off topic here. ^.^
Feb-27-12  geeker: Good to se the hoary Legal's mate in a famous player's game. To my amazement, I once (at the local chess club) was able to execute precisely this combination!
Feb-27-12
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  MichaelJHuman: What happens with 6...dxe? 7. Nxe5 Nxe5

Isn't 8. Qxe5 suicide?

Having troubles seeing that line

Feb-27-12  Garech: Nice and easy one today, although tougher than a lot of the "queen sac mondays". I play the Vienna myself and 3.f4 after Nc6 is not advisable. After Nf6 it's fine but black can equalise quickly with correct play.

-Garech

Feb-27-12  Crispy Seagull: I'm thinking 7. Nxe5. If the bishop takes Q on d1, then 8. Bxf7+ Ke7 9. Nd5#.
Feb-27-12  Memethecat: <geeker: I once (at the local chess club) was able to execute precisely this combination!> If I managed legal or smothered in a real game, I reckon I'd wet myself. ^.^
Feb-27-12
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  chrisowen: <MichaelJHuman> Go fit rob e5 there goes ring the neighbour bonafide ne5, let he hoodwink 7...bd1 it jack in dread isnt it good for black in scuff knight for me a loosing spud cat. Exchane for open sense ar tres 01 you tend hope in extra curios ne5 dams it delicate in curry favour dark. Language 7.ne5 land baloni mind you bg4 come good blonde xray g4 in

white d1= it now in Fernandez either guise it double in bluff or wax on in brute is undead a living relic, in worry it poor chap has been mistaken for going to somebody elses clinic and putting his rights in roll call amazing corner so you clear also in key it is a very large life span or in works tip you late for DG in fashion it down in clerical error you think or is mind kicking in up it deja vu my friens or did CG I just over-look it?

Feb-27-12
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  Penguincw: Saw this game, and a very similar type. So, I had no excuse for missing it. May have taken my time, but still got it. :)
Feb-27-12  BadKnight: i have played legal mate against weaker opponents online on more than one occasions, i got very close to smothered mate more than once, but never acutally delivered it.
Feb-27-12  BlackSheep: For once the position was instantly recognisable for me.
Feb-27-12  BOSTER: Today's <POTD> represents the position, where white knight moved to e5 (Nxe5) , <breaking the relative pin>, but exposing the white queen to danger.

This position is well-known.
But I'd like to give you the position, where white <created the absolute pin>, where the knight's inability to move isn't a matter of desire, it's simply <illegal>.

This is not a <relative pin>, which you can see almost in most games.

I guess this position leaves an aesthetic impression. This is an ex. where <Legal's> is transfered into <illegal>.


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White to play

Feb-27-12  ajile: Rd8+ Kxd8
Bxe7+ Kxe7
Qxc6
1-0
Feb-27-12  Patriot: <ajile> You missed the best response in your line: 1.Rd8+ Kxd8 2.Bxe7+ Kd7

But you were close: 1.Rd8+ Kxd8 2.Qxc6

Feb-27-12  BOSTER: <ajlle> <Rd8+ Kxd8 Bxe7+ Kxe7?>.

Not even close.
Rd8+ Kxd8
Bxe7+ black can play Kd7 and black is better.

Feb-27-12  BadKnight: Rd8 followed by Qxc6
Feb-28-12  ajile: <BOSTER: Rd8+ Kxd8
Bxe7+ black can play Kd7 and black is better.>

But I would sell it with a huge smug look as I stand up grandly and walk away. My opponent would never see this line in reality.

Dec-30-12
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  perfidious: < Garech: ....I play the Vienna myself and 3.f4 after Nc6 is not advisable. After Nf6 it's fine but black can equalise quickly with correct play.>

Those rare times I played the Vienna as White, I went in for 2....Nc6 3.Bc4 (or 3.g3) and agree that it is safer than the craziness of the Vienna Gambit.

Here's one of my two serious games with Black after 2....Nc6, which featured that razor-sharp line (Klaus Fuhrwerk vs A Shaw, 1998).

As to 2....Nf6, I never had any desire to play into that whole business with either 3.f4 or the Frankenstein-Dracula with either colour, though after 3.Bc4, 3....Nc6 is a quite playable alternative to the morass which usually ensues after 3....Nxe4.

Jan-06-19  HarryP: I've done this once. So, for one brief shining moment, I was playing like Pillsbury.
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