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Robert James Fischer vs Tigran V Petrosian
USSR vs. Rest of the World (1970), Belgrade SRB, rd 3, Apr-02
Modern Defense: Gurgenidze Defense (B06)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Jan-07-11  unferth: <Everett> thanks--I have a hard time seeing a practical edge for black's dark-squared bishop here, but fair enough.
Jun-15-11  parisattack: I am surprised the Gurgenidze Robatsch does not get more attention. It is quite intricate, solid and has many different plans for both sides. It was my 'go to' defense.

That said, I could not get the better players to play both e5 and f4 very often and black can only temporize one or two move at most waiting for the former...

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  Caissalove: 29.Nxd5 for white seems winning to me. Somebody please tell me what I have missed?
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  beatgiant: <Caissalove>
Maybe <16...exf5> is a misprint for <16...gxf5>. Can anyone confirm?
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  tamar: 16...gxf5 is the move on Fritz 13 database.
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  Caissalove: Thank you for that. 16....gxf5 must have been played by the look of it.
Aug-28-13  parisattack: Petrosian wrote that 19. ...Bf8 reactivating the B instead of 19. ...Nb8 gives Black good chances.
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  Stonehenge: Photo:

Sep-22-17  Retireborn: <Stonehenge> Very nice photo, with Larsen, Portisch, and Taimanov(? on the left) looking on. Presumably the white-haired guy on the right is Najdorf, and the pair at the back are Matulovic and Botvinnik, while the head right at the front looks like it might be Korchnoi.

So many heroes in such a small space!

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  perfidious: <Retireborn: <Stonehenge> Very nice photo, with Larsen, Portisch, and Taimanov(? on the left) looking on. Presumably the white-haired guy on the right is Najdorf, and the pair at the back are Matulovic and Botvinnik, while the head right at the front looks like it might be Korchnoi....>

Taimanov is indeed at the far left, while your supposition is correct: Korchnoi is pondering while his opponent Portisch is away from the board.

Sep-22-17  Retireborn: <perfidious> Thanks. Now I'm looking more closely, I can see numbers 8 and 9 attached to the tables at the back, which makes it clear who is playing there. Bit of a pity that Tal wasn't sitting down!

It does seem they played this match in quite a cramped space.

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  diceman: Oh the irony!
Taimanov and Larsen pre 6-0, 6-0.

When you consider Fischer is playing Petrosian, you have Fischer's candidates casualties all in a group photo.

Shame Spassky wasn't in the photo.

Sep-22-17  4tmac: Bobby pondering 11. ♗d3 .... good stuff
Sep-22-17  Retireborn: <diceman> The Palma interzonal was still some months away then, but as it turns out 7 of the 8 candidates (and Smyslov who narrowly missed out) were playing here.

The odd man out was Robert Huebner. Would RoW done better with him playing on one of the lower boards? Who knows.

Sep-23-17  Howard: One could argue that Huebner's qualifying for the Candidates was probably a fluke, given that he was only 22 at the time.

In fact, has anyone else noticed that if one looks at the Palma interzonal crosstable, Huebner scored better against the tailenders (starting with Ivkov and going down from there) than anyone else--even Bobby!

Don't take this the wrong way---Huebner not only qualified fair and square, but he gave Petrosian a heck of a time in their quarterfinals Candidates match! But, he was probably luck to get as far as he did.

Sep-23-17  Retireborn: It's probably a moot point, as I suspect that before the interzonal he simply wasn't famous enough to make the RoW 1984 he was board 8 and had four not very exciting draws with Razuvaev.
Sep-23-17  offramp: <Retireborn: It's probably a moot point...>

Are you using <moot> here in its American sense, <not up for discussion>, or in its correct sense, <open to discussion>?

Sep-23-17  Retireborn: <offramp> I'm using it in the Retireborn sense; <not worth discussing>, which is perhaps closer to the American sense.

No doubt you've seen that episode of "Friends" where the admirable Joey uses the phrase "moo point" - according to him, "it's like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter. It's moo."

Sep-23-17  zanzibar:

table, moot, ... what other opposites exist?

Sep-23-17  Retireborn: Personally I'm happy to use "moot" in both its senses and trust my audience to figure out what the Hell I mean!

English has quite a few words that are their own antonyms. Does one more matter? It's a moot point, isn't it? Or a cow's opinion, as Joey would say.

Sep-24-17  zanzibar: <RetiR> - I was thinking specifically of English (er, or British) / American antonyms, i.e. words which essentially have opposite meanings in a similar sense.

I'd include Canadian usage too, but then it would just be too confusing, especially after the recent Canadian/EU "merger" (in contrast to Brexit).

Sep-24-17  Retireborn: <z> Well, you could include everywhere from the Bahamas to Tonga as well. English is still a growing language in many parts of the world, and it's inevitable that the meanings of some words will change over time, perhaps even become the opposite of what they originally meant....
Sep-24-17  Howard: Regarding that "no doubt" remark about the TV series Friends, I've not seen that episode... fact...

I'm one of those 45-50 American adults you've probably read about who has not seen a single episode of that show.

Sep-24-17  Retireborn: Well if you feel like breaking your duck, I recommend the episode with Brooke Shields, where the admirable Joey and his evil twin get their watery comeuppance.
Sep-25-17  Howard: Didn't even know that Brooke was in a Friends episode.
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