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Simon Winawer vs Johannes Zukertort
Paris (1878), Paris FRA, rd 17, Jul-15
Four Knights Game: Double Spanish (C49)  ·  1-0

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Jul-17-07  PAWNTOEFOUR: after black's 17th ,just looking at the position i would have bet my last dollar that he would have won....wow,that's how much i know!!
Jul-01-16  sneaky pete: Position after 32... Kh8


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White played 33.33.gxf3 .. which turned out to be good enough to win. In the tournasment book Schallopp points out a quicker win by 33.h6 Re7 34.Qg5 Bd8 35.Rf4 ..


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It's left to the reader to find the tail end of this winning combination.

35... Bd3+ 36.Kc1 Re1+ 37.Kd2 Bxg5


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38.Rxf8#!!

Nice job, Schallopp.

Jun-22-20  Cadwalla: Steinitz comment on 25. ... Qh6: This is play of the highest order.

The engine points it as a blunder. Any thoughts?

Jun-22-20
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  MissScarlett: Computer better than Steinitz.
Jun-22-20  SChesshevsky: <Steinitz comment on 25...Qh6...>

Guessing the main thing they are thinking about in 1878 is the opportunities for attack. 25...Qh6 allows the rook to escape but also allows blacks B's to get active and own rooks to put on some pressure.

Seems computer sees this is never going to get much. And though probably likes ...Qh6, figured taking off the rook first with 25...Bxd4 and then ...Qh6 and followup gives best drawing chances. Though white is probably still better with plenty of compensation for the exchange.

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