May-09-04 | | WMD: Location was the Mar del Plata tournament in Argentina. Dubbed 'The Untouchable Rook' game. |
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Mar-07-05 | | white pawn: What was Black's first mistake? 3...f5? |
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Mar-07-05 | | Whitehat1963: What would have happened if White had played 15. b2 or Bxa8 instead of the text move Qa5? |
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Dec-03-07 | | zealouspawn: 3..f5 is book |
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Dec-03-07 | | whiteshark: <15.Bxf6 Qxf6 16.Qxc7+ Be7 17.Rxd3 Qg5+ 18.Rde3>  click for larger view is of the same value as the actual move. |
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Feb-21-10 | | Sem: I don't understand this. Black played like a novice, two years after Groningen 1946. |
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May-07-11 | | Lil Swine: no, i believe the first mistake is 10... Be6. Kf7 would've won for black as they could then fight off the attack. |
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May-07-11
 | | FSR: <Lil Swine> 10...Kf7 would have been even worse than 10...Be6, e.g. 11.Bd5+ Kg6 12.Bxe4+ Kf7 13.Bd5+ Kg6 14.Qg3+ and now Black loses a rook for starters: 14...Qg5 15.Qxg5+ Kxg5 16.Bxa8; 14...Kf6 15.Qf3+ Bf5 16.Bxa8; 14...Kh6 15.d3+ g5 16.Bxa8 Qxa8? 17.Qxg5#; 14...Kh5 15.Bf3+ Kh6 16.d3+ g5 17.Bxa8. This is off the top of my head, so White may well have even better. <white pawn> (very belatedly) 7...bxc6? is considered horrible for Black today, but that wasn't clearly established at the time. See http://bit.ly/llcjlN These days, Black would play 7...Qd5 or 7...Qg5, with sharp, unclear play in either case, or deviate earlier with 5...Nf6, which Radjabov uses as a drawing weapon(!) http://bit.ly/3AN5Fv |
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Jan-12-14 | | john barleycorn: <FSR> this was one game demonstrating the shortcomings of 7...bxc6. Among the alternatives 7....Qd5 or 7...Qg5 the latter experienced a heavy crisis after games like these: Kavalek vs Ljubojevic, 1975 Timman vs H Bohm, 1980
Don't about the last word in this opening. |
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Jan-13-14
 | | FSR: <john barleycorn> True. But more recently, Black drew in Carlsen vs Nisipeanu, 2010 and Karjakin vs Radjabov, 2011 (though he lost in Karjakin vs Nisipeanu, 2011, but later drew quickly in Rozentalis vs Nisipeanu, 2012), so 7...Qg5 still seems to have some life left in it. |
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Jan-13-14 | | john barleycorn: <FSR> thanks for the update. Confirms that only very little in the exhaustible game of chess disappears forever. |
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Jan-13-14 | | morfishine: <FSR> Yes, 7...Qg5 is much better (than 7...bxc6, which if nothing else, is not in the spirit of the opening) |
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Feb-09-22 | | hdcc: "Machine-Gun O'Kelly"?
I guess we could say, then, "Denker rubbed out". |
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Feb-09-22 | | Honey Blend: I might have hit back with 7. ... ♕h4 instead. After either 8. ♘e5+ c6 or 8. g3 ♕h3, the situation looks defensible for black. |
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Feb-09-22 | | igiene: In this game he lost, however Arnold Denker is really a player I love , and his books " If you must play chess " and "The Bobby Fischer I knew" are masterpieces. |
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Feb-09-22 | | goodevans: A truly lame pun but a most interesting game to play through. Black never found time to do anything about his en prise rook on a8 and White always found better things to do than take it. |
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Feb-09-22 | | Brenin: When I was a youngster, learning to play chess, it was not just the games of the great players which fascinated me, but also their names, ranging from Tal to Znosko-Borovsky. The most exotic of these was Albéric O'Kelly de Galway. Now I find that this remarkable man had five more names up his sleeve. I still wonder how he identified himself on score-sheets. |
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Feb-09-22
 | | MissScarlett: <A truly lame pun> You haven't seen the film with Charles Bronson? Alberic going gangsta on Denker's derriere. |
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Feb-09-22 | | igiene: A wonderful movie, indeed |
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Feb-09-22
 | | Teyss: <Brenin: I still wonder how he identified himself on score-sheets.> Why, by his full name of course: Albéric Joseph Rodolphe Marie Robert Ghislain O'Kelly de Galway.
And then lost on time. |
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Feb-09-22
 | | Dionysius1: 🤣🤣 |
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Mar-26-22 | | cehertan: Evidently black is only slightly worse after 11�Kf7 and 11�exd3 was the real losing move, though it is unlikely that a human would find this over-the-board. I played Denker when he was well into his 70s and he was a very pleasant man, unlike his dour and aloof contemporary Reshevsky who I also played twice. |
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