chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Milan Vidmar vs Geza Maroczy
"Opposites Detract" (game of the day Jul-25-2008)
Bad Sliac (1932), Sliac CSR, rd 7, Jun-??
Tarrasch Defense: Classical Variation. Classical Tarrasch Gambit (D34)  ·  1/2-1/2

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

Get this game explained with Decode Chess
explore this opening
find similar games 10 more Vidmar/Maroczy games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can change the color of the light and dark squares by registering a free account then visiting your preferences page. Or, you can change it with the "SETTINGS" link in the lower right.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

A COMPUTER ANNOTATED SCORE OF THIS GAME IS AVAILABLE.  [CLICK HERE]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Jul-25-08  vikinx: This opposite coloured bishop endgame was a draw even though White was three pawns up.
Jul-25-08  tomfoolery: Surely it wasn't a draw when the endgame started. There are only a very few collection of three pawns up positions that are drawn. Surely White can push his d-pawn somewhere.
Jul-25-08  Lutwidge: I think my favorite move in this game is 126. Bc7! establishing a bishops of SAME color endgame for a brief but wondrous moment. It's almost as if they were anticipating that someone with a computer 70+ years later would scroll through the bishops of opposite color endgame and, near the end, be very surprised to discover White's light squared bishop having somehow turned to the dark side. :)
Jul-25-08  RedStarRising: <Whitehat1963: What's the follow-up to 32. Nxf5?? I'm sure it's instant death somehow, but I can't see it> and < tpstar: 32. Nxf5!? Rxg2+! 33. Kxg2 Qe4+ 34. Kg1 Qxf5 winning two pieces for a Rook, plus wide open lines toward White's King.>

32. Nxf5? is a critical blunder indeed, (and hence thus not deserve the notification "!?")...Rxg2+! 33. Kxg2. <tpstar> has wrongly listed the continuation... Obviously, it has to be 33...Qd5+, and NOT Qe4+ (as given above), followed by loss of Nf5.

Jul-25-08  randzo: it was play in SLovakia!!!
Jul-25-08  Nikita Smirnov: Dosen't 57.d4 work?
Jul-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Once: I wonder - at what point in this game do both players realise that it is a draw and then play for laughs?

As far as I can see, the underpromotions don't serve a serious purpose. White has no way of winning.

So we have two successive underpomotions, followed by white refusing the offer a bishop (126. Bc7 instead of 126. Bxd8), followed by two king moves which leave the c7 bishop en prise.

And all the time it is nothing but a draw!

Jul-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: What a dog! White cannot win despite being three pawns ahead. Yes,he promotes twice to a bishop.

In the end,black is a bishop ahead-so what!

Jul-25-08  patzer2: Black's 35...Qe5! seems to me to be a significant defensive move in transitioning this game into a drawish opposite color Bishop ending.

It can be difficult to win these, even with a sifniicant pawn majority.

Jul-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: Opposites Intact.
Jul-25-08  wanabe2000: Opposites subtract.
Jul-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <Opposites Subtract.> <Opposites Intact.> We considered both of those, as well as <Opposites Distract> but in the end we went with <Opposites Detract> because it was the most concise way to express the concept. Our puns are so bad, it takes a lot of effort to achieve this level of badness.
Jul-26-08  Calli: The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. - Neils Bohr
Dec-03-08  WhiteRook48: h8B! d8B!!
Dec-18-08  WhiteRook48: 3 dark-squared Bishops in the same game!!!! Weird.
1. The Bc1
2. The bishop who promoted on h8
3. The bishop who promoted on d8
Dec-22-08  WhiteRook48: I mean 4:
The fourth dark-squared bishop was the Bf8!!!
Dec-23-08  WhiteRook48: These bishop promotions are hilarious. Speaking of which, I wonder when <bishop> is going to kibitz here.
Dec-24-08  WhiteRook48: All these bishop moves... it's crazy! With all the bishops, you'd think it's bishop haven!! Hilarious endgame, what were these players doing?
Dec-29-08  WhiteRook48: 128...Bxc7 is a draw. Why 129. Kg4 when it's already a draw??
Jan-05-09  WhiteRook48: 127. Kxg5 is already a draw, so they decided to play 2 more moves!!
Jan-19-09  WhiteRook48: one can only just imagine if the players were laughing harder than ever after this...
Jan-31-09  WhiteRook48: it would be funny if after move 129 they played on for 50 more moves
Apr-12-09  AniamL: Isn't 106.h4 winning?
Jun-22-10  WhiteRook48: 106 h4?! Bf8!! 107 g5?! Bg7! white cannot dislodge the black king from e5. if 108 gxh6?! Bxh6! and there is no chance of getting through.
Sep-18-11  Beautiful.LMS: Why doesn't White play 10.Na4 and protect the pawn?
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
favorite games
by W O C E
Two underpromotions to BISHOPS!? (It didn't much matter.)
from yUndrwear Serves A Purpose Butt Not 4Fredthebear by fredthebear
White promotes to bishop-twice! yet draws.
from unique themes three by kevin86
35...Qe5! forces simplification to a drawis ending
from Defensive Combinations by patzer2
98_D34_Tarrasch Defense of QGD
by whiteshark
Game of the day 3
by vikinx
Amusing endgame - Black holds three pawns down
from Fuzzy's Personal's by Fuzzy
Promotion to Bishop twice!
from Habemus Papam by cu8sfan
35...Qe5! forces simplification to a drawis ending
from Defensive Combinations by nakul1964
0ZeR0's Favorite Games Volume 2
by 0ZeR0
interesting stalemating fortress method
from chess strategems vii - under construction by gauer
35...Qe5! forces simplification to a drawis ending
from Defensive Combinations by trh6upsz
Classical Tarrasch Gambit (D34) 1/2-1/2 Bishops EG
from Triumphant E of G - Move these games by fredthebear
Double underpromotion
from Interesting draws by capybara
They must have had a good laugh in the end
from Exciting, Original, Unusual And Other Draws by T by Octavia
They must have had a good laugh in the end
from Exciting, Original, Unusual And Other Draws by TheAlchemist
Part 3 of BEST GAMES EVER
by dull2vivid
Opposite Bishops Ending
from Various games by paladin at large

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2021, Chessgames Services LLC