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Bjorn Larsen vs Odd Lie
NOR-ch corr (1985) (correspondence)
King's Gambit: Accepted. Kieseritsky Gambit Anderssen Defense (C39)  ·  0-1

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Jul-23-05
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  cu8sfan: <offramp> I only know of Sophus Lie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie_gr...) and his Lie groups in math (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie_gr...).
Jul-23-05  Appaz: We must not forget about Kjetil A Lie
Jul-23-05  Appaz: "Odd" is old Norse and means the point of a knife or a spear, and I think Lie means a small valley, although the modern speeling is just "Li".
Jul-26-05  offramp: I don't know if you know the phrase "Odds Bodkins!!" A bodkin is a small, sharply pointed instrument for making holes in fabric or leather, and as you say an odd is the point of a knife or a spear. The World of the Strange!!
Jul-26-05  ughaibu: Has the expression "odds bodkins" ever been used other than in Rentaghost?
Jul-26-05  Appaz: <Odds Bodkins> Sorry, I have never heard the phrase. However I found this link http://www.oddsbodkin.com/ Apparently he is a childrens singer.
Jul-26-05  mymt: ...a telescopic [trick] needle used to prick the accussed without drawing blood assuring a guilty verdict. http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/97/...
Jul-27-05  PhilFeeley: I've seen more losses by white from the King's Gambit than wins. What was the advantage for white when this opening was first played (in the 1800s and early 1900s, I mean)?
Jul-27-05  sleepkid: "odds bodkins" was frequently used in old Bugs Bunny cartoons, most often by Daffy Duck who sometimes changed it to "odds my bodkins"

Jul-28-05
Premium Chessgames Member
  Benzol: <sleepkid> Are you just passing through or are you on a sabbatical?
Jul-28-05  sleepkid: ...I'm still around. I drop in and look at the odd game or two, and read a few comments, but usually I am on a computer at school, and can't be bothered to sign in and comment.

...however, as it is summer vacation now, I might post a bit. ;-)

Aug-05-05  tacticsjokerxxx: move 20 was typically odd.
Oct-14-05  Averageguy: I think that we should stop having a laugh at his odd name and comment on his chess playing skills. He was certainly a skilled player to be able to beat Larsen.
Oct-31-05  Udit Narayan: An inspiration to everyone who hates the King's Gambit.
Oct-31-05  Steppenwolf: 20...Qh1! SURPRISE. Larsen was feeling so good after his 20. Qe2 and black king in such a fix (with Qb5, or Rd1 or Rf1, etc.). Qh1 must have been a shock!
Oct-31-05  jumperino: <Steppenwolf> Not sure what the Qh1 move did other than insert an extra move into the game - the queen moved right back to where she was before, and play continued as if it never happened...
Jan-03-06  Karpova: <jumperino>
yes, black could have played kf7 at once, 20...qh1+ didn't change the position so there's no reason to acclaim that move.
Jan-03-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  Everett: 23.Rf1+, as noted by <InspiredbyMorphy> is a good place to start to improve for white. With black's two pieces in the corner, white is, in practice, up material, and can look for Queen forks to pick up the rook.

Jan-05-06  Karpova: <Everett>
i don't think it's that easy.
23.Rf1+ Nf6 and the Bh6 is attacked.
so maybe 23.Rf1+ Nf6 24.Be3 (to meet 24....a6 and Ra7) and what is white's response to 24...g3 ?
Feb-03-06
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  Everett: <Karpova>
I see your point.
I've tried looking at 23.Qe4, not so much to nab the cornered rook but threatening Qxh7, yet 23...Nf6 24.Qf4 runs into 24...e5

After 23.Qe4 Nf6 24.Qxa8 I'm not sure what's best. I don't have a board or the vision, but white cannot be good after leaving his own rook in the corner, his king under seige by the Queen, and g3 coming.

Mar-29-06
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  egilarne: Odd Lie was the grandfather of GM Kjetil A. Lie
May-04-06  Paintbucket: Odd Lie. What a name. Why not on move 5 play the muzio gambit (5.O-O)? It's quite a fun line to play.
May-14-06  DeepBlade: Quite fun?

Its the sharpest line you can get in the KGA.

May-26-06  ChessPieceFace: okay, i might get laughed out of town with this one, but how come mr. lie didn't play 21. ...Qxa1? i guess it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game, but that seemed to be the point of 20. ...Qh1, right?

by the way, this game screams to made a game-of-the-day, just for the golf-themed puns. (i don't mind if you laugh at that part, it was supposed to be funny. :) )

May-27-06  sneaky pete: <ChessPieceFace> If 21... Qxa1? 22.Qxe6+ Kd8 23.Bg5+ Kc7 24.Qe5+ .. white perpetuals.
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