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Aug-15-16
 | | agb2002: White has two pawns for two knights.
Black threatens dxe5.
The black knight stops 16.e6#. Hence, 16.Qf5+ Nxf5 17.e6#. |
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Aug-15-16
 | | Willber G: Black should have played 13...Qxg5. |
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| Aug-15-16 | | zb2cr: Nice one. It took me over a minute to see it. |
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| Aug-15-16 | | erixn: I suppose 13...Qxg5 should be answered by 14.Qxf7+ Kd8 15.Qc7+ Ke8 16.Rae1!, when Bxe5? allows 17.Qf7+ with mate to follow, and after dxe5 17.h4! the black Q gets in trouble: Qg3 18.Re3! or Qg6 18.Nf4! |
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Aug-15-16
 | | steinitzfan: It's a Monday puzzle but it's the kind that gives a beginner a little push. There's some very plausible clearance sacrifices that don't work. Only the diversion sac works. |
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Aug-15-16
 | | gawain: Harder (for me) than most Mondays. Mate is crying out to be delivered with e6, so the knight must first be taken or lured away. 16 Qf5+ will do the trick. |
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Aug-15-16
 | | Bubo bubo: The Nd4 defends against e6#, so it has be lured away: 16.Qf5+ with mate after either 16...Nxf5 17.e6# or 16...Ne6 17.Qxe6#. |
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| Aug-15-16 | | YouRang: Quite easy Monday 16.?
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The first thing I noticed was black's immobile king, which means any check could be mate. The second thing I noticed is that I have a couple ways to give check (e6+ and Qf5+), and black has just one piece (Nd4) trying valiantly to stand in the way of both of these attacks. Alas, stopping one <16.Qf5 Nxf5> allows the other <17.e6#>. For a moment, I had considered taking the N with 16.Qxd4, but then 16...Qb6! pins my Q and, more importantly, gives the black K an escape square at c7, and white's wonderful attack vanishes. |
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| Aug-15-16 | | kevin86: Wow! White gives up the queen and mates with a pawn! Amazing! |
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| Aug-15-16 | | YetAnotherAmateur: 16. Qf5+ does the job beautifully, because black has only 2 legal responses: A) 16. ... Nxf5 17. e6#
B) 16. ... Ne6 17. Qxe6# |
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| Aug-15-16 | | BOSTER: <AlicesKnigt 16 e6 would mate, but>.
Not any but. |
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| Aug-15-16 | | dark.horse: sack the queen
push the pawn. |
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| Aug-15-16 | | drollere: wow ... well most tedious is
16. e6+ Nxe6
17. Bxe6+ Kxe6
18. Qf5+ Ke8
19. Qf7#
also Qf5+ Nxf5, e6#
also Bxg8, Rxg8, Qf7#
3/3 |
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Aug-15-16
 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: <drollere>--After 16 e6+ Nxe6 17 Bxe6+ black can escape by playing Ke8. |
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Aug-15-16
 | | beenthere240: Is this the same Neumann that appeared on Seinfeld? |
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| Aug-16-16 | | unferth: <Gregor Samsa Mendel: <drollere>--After 16 e6+ Nxe6 17 Bxe6+ black can escape by playing Ke8.> after Ke8 18 Bxc8 black is helpless against the threat of Rae1. |
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Aug-16-16
| | Gregor Samsa Mendel: <unferth>--While black will eventually lose in this line, I don't see it leading to a quick mate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9_... |
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| Aug-16-16 | | sachman19: Incredible. Mind Boggling!!! |
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| Aug-16-16 | | unferth: <Gregor Samsa Mendel: <unferth>--While black will eventually lose in this line, I don't see it leading to a quick mate.> though I haven't checked it with a program, I don't think there's any way for black to avoid mate in four or five at most:
18 Bxc8 Rxc8 19 Rae1+ Ne7 (or Qe7) 20 Qf7++; 18 Bxc8 Qxc8 19 Rae1+ Kd7 20 Re7+ Nxe7 21 Qxe7++; 18 ... Be5 19 Qf8++; 18 Ne7 (or Qe7) 19 Qf7++ etc. if black has a better try I sure don't see it. |
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| Aug-16-16 | | BOSTER: This is a big question: why 16. e6+ does not work? |
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| Aug-17-16 | | unferth: I believe it does--not quite as quickly and elegantly as Qf5, but equally lethally. |
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| May-12-17 | | User not found: 12.Bxd6! absolutely finishes Black because of the threat of mate on f7 
click for larger viewAt best if the piece is recaptured with.. 12..cxB. 13. Qxf7+ ..kd8 ..14.Qxg7 ..Ne2+ and IF 15.kh1 ..Ng3+ 16.hxN and then Qh6 saves the h8 rook.. 
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| Nov-20-19 | | laskereshevsky: in the decades already found at least 2-3 times this position in exercise diagrams (like move and win or found the mate in 2-3-4 moves stuffs)
click for larger view and easily see the combination ♕f5+ - ♘xf5 - ♙e6#..... Now im discovering its a Nimzo's father game
OK then, great |
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| Dec-19-19 | | gambitfan: I have just put this game in my colLection DUBIOUS GAMES. My question is: should such a game belong to the chessgames.com data bank ? What is the level of both players ? Who are they ? As far as I understood, in any chessgames.com game, at least one of the players must be a chess master, GM, IM, WGM, WIM, or at the least FIDE master. If there is only one, it is a simultaneous, an exhinition, a blindfold... Both players in this game seen unknown.
I can see quite a few question marks in Stockfish comments. The only reason might have been a confusion with the family name Nimzowitsch... |
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| Mar-18-23 | | PaulieNomial: Schaya Niemzowitsch was Aron Nimzowitsch's father, a well known Latvian chess player in his time who taught his son the game. |
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