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Apr-11-13
 | | HeMateMe: A knight moving away from the action, to the h file. Not a chance of finding this one. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | eaglewing: Regarding Seirawan's "win material and duck and cover" technique: How about 14. Qg3 Rg8? Sure, it looks ugly, but is it bad? Follow-up developement idea is b6 and Bb7. Maybe even 0-0-0, depending on the threat level for Rc1. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | Nerwal: 14. ♕g3 ♖g8 isn't that bad, but doesn't solve black's problems with developing his pieces. For instance 15. ♗e3 b6 is dubious because of 16. ♕d6 when 16... ♗b7 fails to 17. ♕xd7+. Otherwise white develops his rook on one of the open files while black's king still stands in the center, and threats start to become very serious. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | nateinstein: I too found Rg8, and think it may actually be more forcing than Nh5. I would be interested in computer analysis. White also threatens Qb5+ winning the queen since only Qd7 can be played to stop mate, followed by Rxf8+. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | goodevans: Add me to the list of those beguiled by the tempation of Rg8! |
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Apr-11-13
 | | doubledrooks: I cast my ballot for 31. Nh5. For example:
a. 31...Qc7 32. Rg7 Qc1+ 33. Kg2 Qc2+ 34. Bf2 R6a7 35. Nf6+ Kd8 36. Qxf8# b. 31...Ra4 32. Qb5+ Nd7 33. Nf6+ Kd8 34. Nxd7+ Kd8 35. Nb6+ Kf8 36. Nxa4  |
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Apr-11-13
| | doubledrooks: I overlooked 34...Rxh4 in my line b. |
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Apr-11-13
 | | chrisowen: Now then gauge the point he at door can in effect,
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| Apr-11-13 | | Howard: This was their first game since their extremely-memorable late 1989 clash in Sweden. That game was exceptionally complicated, and Seirawan apparently missed a win. This 1996 one was probably their last game though. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | Strongest Force: "The Yaz" looked intimidated...can't blame him. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | MountainMatt: Too rich for my blood. |
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Apr-11-13
 | | Jimfromprovidence: To me, the only way you see 31 Nh5, below is if you saw the mate in one threat first.
click for larger viewOtherwise, black's queen simply takes the knight. Now after 31...Qc7, 32 Rg7 becomes the logical follow-up move. It's interesting that 31...Qc7 or 31...Qa7 were the queen's only "safe" squares. Also I just now realized that black still had the ability to castle queenside but the bishop on a4 prevents this. |
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Apr-11-13
 | | kevin86: My try was Rg8,but it was the more coy Nh5 that Kaspy played. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | Geronimo: I'm with <hemateme>. I freely admit that this was beyond me. I must be tired today. That or I'm just a patzer. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | BOSTER: I like to read Seirawan's book, they are more logical than the game which <CG> represented.
This is the pos. after 14.Qg3 with black to play.
My opinion when black with extra exchange and pawn up, even when white has many open lines, and better with development, but no any white pieces crossed the equator, and even white is Kasparov, you need a great skill to lose such pos.
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| Apr-11-13 | | njchess: I got this one, but it took a lot longer than I would have liked. In fact, I had pretty much given up and had selected the link to open the game to see the solution. When, as the page was loading in the new tab, I saw 31. Nh5 and then it all fell in place. Prior to that, I just could not find a way for White to force the issue. I wonder at what move GM Kasparov saw the game's final sequence. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | devere: My first impression was that the sacrifice of the exchange plus a pawn for some positional pressure must be a coffee-house chess gambit. But after looking and looking it seems that even if Black defends perfectly the best he will get for his trouble is a draw. It's just another remarkable conception by that chess magician, Gary Kasparov |
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| Apr-11-13 | | M.Hassan: "Medium"
White to play 31.?
White has a Bishop+pawn for a Rook
I spent some time on 31.Bf6 and not seeing good results for White: 31.Bf6 Nd7
32.Rg7 Ra4
33.Qb7 R4a7
34.Rxd7+ Qxd7
35.Rxd7 Rxd7
Black will have the advantage.
I then tried :
31.Nh5
<if....Qxh5 32.Qe7#> <if....Qh7 32.Nf6+ and it's a Royal Fork> 31...........Qc7
32.Rg7
Queen can check the king couple of times but will stop while having become away from battle grounds:
<32.....Qc1+ 33.Kg2 Qc2+ 34.Bf2 R6a7 35.Qb5+ Kd8 36.Nxe6+ Kc8 37.Qe8#> So, the best move would be to take the Rook on move 32. 32...........Qxg7
33.Nxg7+ Kf7
34.Qb7+ Kg8
Black has to continue a Queenless game.
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| Apr-11-13 | | Patriot: White is down the exchange for a pawn.
31.Rg8 looks like a winning try:
31...Qxg8 32.Qe7#
31...Ra1+ 32.Kh2 doesn't seem to help black any.
31...R6a7 32.Ng6 Kd7 33.Qd6+ Kc8 34.Rxf8+
31...R8a7 32.Qb8+ Kd7 33.Rxf8
31...Kd7 32.Rg7 Qxg7 33.Qb7+
31...Ra5 32.Ng6
I don't see a defense for black. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | Patriot: 31...R6a7 32.Ng6?? Qxg8 - I'm not sure why I missed this. Houdini recommends 32.Nh5 here. 31.Rg8 only gives white an advantage. I didn't even consider 31.Nh5. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | Pedro Fernandez: What kind of Kool-Aid Yasser used that day? 31.Nh5 is not so hard to find in a couple minutes; the not that easy to see it was 31...Qc7 (I thought 31...Ra1 with the idea to pin the white rook, which is not enough too), but Kasparov had envisaged everything. |
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| Apr-11-13 | | Sularus: I went with 31. Rg8, too. I didn't even consider 31. Nh5 |
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| Apr-11-13 | | HowDoesTheHorsieMove: I seem to be the only one who chose Ng6, but it is yet another draw. |
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Jul-29-15
| | Plaskett: I said to Kasparov that the sequence after 11 h3 struck me so implausible that I just had to let myself entertain the possibility that Gary had simply overlooked that he loses the exchange and a pawn.
He asked "Are you crazy?"
I replied that I, at first, could find no more likely explanation.
He too thought 14...Rg8 to be superior, and commented " ... we could put it on the computer..." |
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| Dec-17-15 | | Howard: This was their first encounter since their epic draw back in late 1989 at the final World Cup tournament, and it was also their last one. |
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