|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
| Apr-14-05 | | JohnBoy: Tjhanks everyone for correcting my error. And, <beginner>, I thought about your line as well. But I believe black escapes after 36.Qxf7 with 36...Qc6. I am now convinced that Kaspy's line is definitely the way to go. |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | LIFE Master AJ: <everyone>
30.h4! is the beginning of a wonderful (final) assault. In the 'Inside Chess' magazine, they report that no one in the tournament hall correctly guessed the way the game was going to end. |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | Ericsupreme: Was 34... Nxd7 black's best move? |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | LIFE Master AJ: <Eric>
I'd say 34...Nxd7 was no fun for Black but completely forced. Taking with the Queen obviously loses to Rook takes the lady. And 34...RxN/d7??; drops a piece to 35.QxN/f6+, followed by 36.QxP/h6+, with total devastation. What do you think? |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | The beginner: Johnboy
Black cant escape from mate. Only he can delay it a few moves. 34 Bxd7 ..Ne4
35 Rxh6 ..Kxh6
36 Qxf7 ..Qc6
37 Bxc6 and black is lost |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | Ericsupreme: LIFE Master AJ
It was just a question to get some feed back. Even though I'm a rookie... it's quite obvious that any move black's makes at that point will lead to his demise!! |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | Boomie: <Shams> 18...Nxc4 leads to equality. Here's two possible lines. 18... ♘xc4 19. ♗g5 (19. ♕e2 ♕c3 20. ♖b1 ♖fd8 21. ♗g5 ♘d6 22. ♖d3 ♕c7 23. ♕xe5 ♖e8 24. ♕d4 ♘fe4 25. ♗f4 ♕d7) e4 20. ♕f5 ♘d6 21. ♕e5 ♕d8 22. ♗e3 ♖e8 23. ♕f4 ♘c4 24. ♗d4 a6 25. d6 ♖e6 26. ♖ac1 b5 27. axb5 axb5 28. ♗xc4 bxc4 29. ♗xf6 ♖xf6 30. ♕xe4 ♖xd6 31. ♖xd6 ♕xd6 32. ♖xc4 ♖xc4 33. ♕xc4 |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | Fulkrum: I saw 34.Bxg5 hxg5 35.Bxd7... |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | yoozum: Thankfully I saw this one, but not the precise continuation. Yes, black seems rather stuck here, doesn't he? |
|
Apr-14-05
 | | The Long Diagonal: It seems that also 35. Rxh6 wins rapidly. 35. - Kxh6, 36. Bg5+ Kg7, 37. h6+ and now: A) 37. - Kh8, 38. Bf6+ mating or B) 37. - Kf8, 38. h7 queening or C) 37. -Kg8 38. Be7 threatening Dg5+. |
|
Apr-14-05
| | benveniste: <Fulkrum> I consider Bxg5 to be the winning move. Whether it is played on move 34 or 35 seems incidental. |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | brainzugzwang: <Honza Cervenka> and <cu8sfan> Just out of desperation in answer to your 34.Bxg5 hxg5 35.Bxd7 combos, what about the zwichenshug (sp.?) 35... Qxd6, to remove the White rook's lateral threats? After 36.cxd6 Nxd7, can Black hold off the mate/promotion threats with R+N against Q+P? |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | midknightblue: <LifeMaster AJ> I didnt know you were on this site. Great. Love your web page and amazon reviews. Any new chess book reviews lately? |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | hintza: < didnt know you were on this site. Great.> Feel the enthusiasm! |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | JohnBoy: <beginner> - the bishop with which you are playing Bxc6 has been removed from the board. You seem to be making the same mistake I originally made, trying to play this out w/o a board. |
|
| Apr-14-05 | | riqhi: too dificult, even after seing the answer! |
|
Apr-14-05
 | | Richard Taylor: <riqi> but can you see some of the ideas? I should have seen it ((I thought the first move was Bxg5) as I have been working these sorts of positions out since I was 12 ..but I started with pins and forks etc - Look at some basic tactics books starting with the easier ones - I believe there is huge book by Alburt and one by Reinfeld - I started with books like Reinfld's "Winning Chess" - even now after about 40 years of Chess I am looking for a book like that..but as I say the main thing is to get the ideas -even if the details at this stage might evade you... I look at the main ideas then leave the problem after about 10 minutes (or I get bogged down - try to work it out without moving the pieces) |
|
Apr-14-05
 | | Benzol: The variation I had in mind was 34.♗xd7 ♘xd7 35.♖xh6 ♔xh6 36.♗xg5+ ♔xh5 37.♗f6+ ♔h6 38.♕g5+ ♔h7 39.♕g7 # Of course 36...♔xh5 is not forced but even with 36...♔g7 37.h6+ ♔g8 38.♗f6 White looks to be winning. |
|
| Apr-15-05 | | The beginner: Johnboy
The Bishop is still there in the variation i gave :)
34 Bxd7 ..Ne4
35 Rxh6 ..Kxh6
36 Qxf7 ..Qc6
37 Bxc6 and black is lost |
|
Apr-15-05
 | | Honza Cervenka: <brainzugzwang> 34.Bxg5 hxg5 35.Bxd7 Qxd6 36.cxd6 Nxd7 is bad as 37.Qxg5+ wins the Rook d8. |
|
| Apr-15-05 | | brainzugzwang: <Honza Cervenka> Oops - thanks. That's what I get for trying to find desperate saves while at work. I saw 36... Rxd7 flops on 37.h6+ followed by 38.Qxf6, so I tried a different capture to salvage the line. Nice oversight. |
|
| Apr-16-05 | | LIFE Master AJ: <everyone>
Its a nice combo to be sure. (The fianl part of the game.) At move 8-10, Black looks to be fine. So at what point did Black lose this. Playing through it above, without the aid of the computer, I see no one move that I could label as "THE LOSING MOVE." (Usually I can pinpoint the bad moves - and pretty quickly too.) So, the only question remains ... where did Black go wrong? |
|
| Apr-17-05 | | Boomie: I think the first misstep for black is exchanging the white squared bishop at move 10. This piece has an important job restraining the white center through the knight pin or on g6 if it is pushed there. White must invest a lot to get rid of it. |
|
| Apr-19-05 | | LIFE Master AJ: <Bommie>
Good observation. |
|
Jan-16-16
| | Miguel Medina: Kasparov, is undoubtedly the best player in sacrificing a pawn in the long run. |
|
 |
|
|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·
Later Kibitzing> |
Kibitzing
