| Feb-13-05 | | fgh: Draw? According to my Shredder 8, black wins after 70. ... Rh1+ 71. Kg3 Ne4+ 72. Kg2 Nxf6 73. Kxh1 Nxg4 and black should win easily. Well, maybe they where both tired and didn't see the line. |
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| Sep-07-05 | | MoonlitKnight: Kaspy might have seen the line, but Tal definitely didn't, since this line wins easily as pointed out. The black king is ideally placed. He just needs to put his knight on b3 and the pawn marches on. |
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| Nov-17-05 | | lopium: Yes, or the knight in b3. |
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| Nov-17-05 | | sfm: I'd suggest to place the knight at b3 instead |
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| Nov-17-05 | | who: are you sure it's a win and white can't just sac his bishop for the a pawn? |
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| Nov-17-05 | | who: From the kibbitzers cafe
<Nov-17-05
WannaBe: <who> according to http://www.lokasoft.nl/tbweb.htm the result is:::
Request nr: 214
Position: M19
Ng4-f2 M19
Ng4-e5 M19
Ng4-f6 M19
Kc2-b2 M19
a4-a3 M19
Ng4-e3 M19
Ng4-h6 M20
Kc2-c1 M20
Kc2-d2 M20
Kc2-b1 M20
Kc2-d1 M21
Ng4-h2 0
Hope this helps.> |
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| Nov-17-05 | | who: On the same page KVCS pointed out that the above analysis is with black's move. If it's white's move the analysis goes (also by KVCS) <The position with White to move is Mate in 19: Position -M19, Bc4-f7 -M19, Kh1-g1 -M19, Bc4-a2 -M19, Bc4-b5 -M19, Bc4-e6 -M19, Bc4-g8 -M19, Bc4-d5 -M19, Bc4-a6 -M17, Bc4-e2 -M14, Bc4-f1 -M14, Kh1-g2 -M12, Bc4-b3 -M10, and Bc4-d3 -M10.> |
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| Dec-20-06 | | lopezexchange: 66...a3; 67.Rxf6,a2; 68.Ra6,Re1; 69.g5,a1(Q); 70.Rxa1,Rxa1; with a technical win. Example: 71.Kg4,Nd5; 72.Bf3,Kd4; 73.Kf5,Rf1; 74.Kg4,Ke5; 75.Kg3,Nf4; 76.Bg4,Rg1+; 77.Kf3,Ne6; 78.Bh5,Nxg5; 79.Kf2,Rh1; 80.Be2,Ne4+; 81.Kg2,Rh7; 82.Bd3,Rf7; 83.Kg1,Kf4; 84.Kg2,Ke3; 85.Bxe4,Kxe4 with mate in 8 moves. Back to the game: 68...Rc6 also wins example: 69.Bd3,a3; 70.Bg6,Rc7; 71.Rxf6,a2; 72.Rb6+,Ka3; 73.Bc2,a1(Q); 74.Ra6+,Kb2; 75.Rxa1,Kxa1 and the rest is technique. |
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| Dec-20-06 | | Fisheremon: <lopezexchange> There are several moments worthing commentary earlier:
56. Rxf4? (56. Bf1! leads to a draw)
56...Ke5? (56...Ra3! 57. Rf3 Ne4+ 58. Kg2 Rxf3 59. Kxf3 Nc3 60. Bc4+ Kd6 and Black wins) 57. Ra4 Ne4+ 58. Kg2 Rc5 59. Kf3 Nc3 60. Ra3? (60. Rf4! Nxe2 61. Re4+ Kd5 62. Rxe2 a4 63. Ke3 and draw)
(After this the position is lost for White, and 62...a4 63. Kh4 Ra5 64. Kg3 Ra8 is a clear way to win).
65...a4? (Black should play 65...Kb4)
66.Rf1? (66. Bc6 Kb4 67. Bxa4 Nxa4 68. Rf1 forces a draw)
66...Re6 extends a longer resistence (66...a3!)
68...Kc2? (should be 68...Re4, or 68. Rc6 as you indicated)
70. Rxf6? a final mistake (70. Rf2+!).
The game shows that both (especially Tal) don't like delicate (perhaps a bit boring from their point of view) endgames (they're maestros of giddy combos !). |
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| May-21-12 | | 7he5haman: Hey everyone!
Shame Tal missed/did not play Rh1+...
I am wondering, however, whether the win is really that simple after: 70...Rh1+ 71.Kg5 Ne4+ 72.Kg6 Nxf6 73.Kxf6 |
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| May-21-12 | | Albertan: According to Houdini 2.0c Tal could
have won this game as follows:
70...Rh1+ 71. Kg5 Ne4+ 72. Kg6 Nxf6 73. Kxf6 Kc3 74.Bd5 Rf1+ 75. Ke5 Rg1 76. Kf4 a3 77. Be6 Rf1+ 78. Kg3 Rf6 79. Ba2 Kb2 80. Bd5 Rb6 81. Kf4 Rb3 82. Bxb3 Kxb3 83. Kf3 a2  |
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| Oct-22-15 | | RookFile: Was this a blitz game or something? It's crazy to think Tal would not see Rh1+ setting up a knight fork. |
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| Nov-06-15 | | Zugzwangovich: Spot on, <RookFile>. It WAS a blitz game, played not in Moscow but in Brussels. Correction submitted. In this blitz tourney Gazza won on time vs. Karpov though a rook, knight and pawn down. This is to thank you for answering a question of mine earlier today. |
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| Nov-06-15 | | Zugzwangovich: To correct my last, it was a blitz game but not the one played that year in Brussels. |
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