May-01-05 | | Poisonpawns: 19 wins for Kasparov ,1 win for Korchnoi, and 24 draws is very impressive,at least Korchnoi got a win unlike shirov.:-)This is an awsome game,Korchnoi has to play Nxd5 at some point!! 19..Nxd5 20.exd5 Rb8 21.Rc2 instead of Bd4? or on move 17..instead of b5!? again Nxd5 18.exd5 Nf6 19.Rad1 after Bd4 and bxb2 the screws fall out of blacks position..22.Rc2! because if Rxc7? Rxc7 23.Bxc7 Be5 24.Bxe5 Nxe5 and black maybe a bit better,I think this line is what Korchnoi expected.After Rc2! black is lost.nice game |
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Sep-24-07 | | Fast Gun: If I am not mistaken, this was the final game of the match, that clinched
a 4-1 victory in favour of Kasparov: I stand to be corrected on this point,
it is interesting how Korchnoi began well by taking the lead, but after Kasparov levelled the score, Korchnoi crumbled in a manner that was unlike Korchnoi, maybe the renowned chess fighter had met his match in Kasparov? |
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Sep-24-07 | | zev22407: I remember reading that Korchnoi was muged near his hotel by some bandits during that match. |
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Sep-04-11 | | DrMAL: Kasparov covered this game next after Kasparov vs Portisch, 1983 on DVD #4 (of 5) in "My Story" it was the decisive game (9 of 11) of his match. Interestingly, young Kasparov played game 1 as white and lost, a terrible start which, as in his 1984 WC match with Karpov, he learned how to recover from. Kasparov had less difficulty beating Korchnoi than Karpov did. Kasparov noted that Korchnoi tried 6...Rb8 here, an unusual move, stating that he had some experience with it in a practice game the year before, and 8.Nfd2 was his "refutation" to it. The same position after 6...Rb8 was encountered in Carlsen vs Portisch, 2007 where Magnus played a different sequence and won. For what it's worth, Houdini also evaluates 8.Nfd2! as clearly best giving white most advantage (around 0.33). He also noted 14.Qf3 as strong (with 14.Bf4 as a good alternative, possibly better) then commented that playing 17.Nd5 helps avoids an endgame and leads to fun. I'm not sure how much fun 17.Nd5 would have been if Korchnoi played something better than 17...b5?! such as 17...Qc6 or 17...Re8 evaluated as quite a bit better by Houdini (they look better too). Kasparov called 17...b5?! "not a good move" and pointed out how (probably black's third best) 17...Nxd5 wins a pawn but white still ahead with an attack (true). He finally recommended ugly looking 17...c6 with 18.Nxf6+ Nxf6 better than 17...b5?! but clearly not the best. Kasparov played the very strong 18.Na5! and the best sequence to follow including 19.Rfc1! a move he was proud of (being best among other strong moves I suppose so!). His explanation of why this was best, in terms of describing white's coordination, is much better than what any computer can spit out. Here, as he noted Korchnoi's 19...Bd4?! (instead of simply 18...Nxd5) was a second nearly decisive inaccuracy. He explained Korchnoi opted for this to prevent the knight on a5 from going to c6 (makes sense). White played 20.Rxa4 a strong move but he missed 20.Ne7+! Kh8 21.Rxa4 instead probably winning. With Korchnoi's third inaccuracy 20...Bxb2?! (instead of 20...Nxd5) 21.Ne7+! was winning anyway in a similar manner. Kasparov called 20..Bb2 a decisive mistake (as it was) but stated black had no defense anyway. His illustrations in the video of how 20...Nxd5 (black's best) loses anyway are really great to watch. Fabulous game made lucid by Kasparov's honest and amazingly perceptive commentary. No wonder he included it in his video it was the game that "proved" him definitively better than Korchnoi as a challenger to Karpov. |
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Nov-30-15 | | Howard: Regarding one of the above comments, Korchnoi got mugged the morning of this game though I don't recall the details. During this game, by the way, some loud music suddenly started playing from a room down below. All this is briefly explained in Chess Life. |
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Dec-22-16 | | Howard: Uhhhh....upon doing some checking, it turns out that this game was NOT the 11th, and final, game of the match, contrary to what one of the earlier comments states! Let me check the Informant when I get home. |
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Dec-22-16 | | offramp: Korchnoi thought that Kasparov was a player with just one big punch, and that Anand knew nothing at all about chess. I think the old geezer was right. |
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Dec-22-16 | | disasterion: I sometimes can't tell when you're being facetious, <offramp>. Did Korchnoi really say that of Anand? search "Korchnoi vs Anand " |
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Dec-22-16 | | offramp: <disasterion: I sometimes can't tell when you're being facetious, <offramp>. Did Korchnoi really say that of Anand?> It's funny but true!
<Vishy Anand once said to me: I have won about fifteen games against [Kortschnoi], without any losses, and after each one of them he informed me that I have no idea about chess".> [My Great Predecessors vol.5, p.369] The other one is:
<Up until this match Kasparov had been famous, as Korchnoi himself put it, for having “one big punch”...>
http://extras.thetimes.co.uk/public.... |
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Dec-22-16 | | SpiritedReposte: It would be amusing to tell world champions how bad they suck...especially after they beat you lol. |
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Dec-22-16 | | disasterion: <offramp> That's rather wonderful. Thanks for the quotes |
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Dec-23-16 | | zanzibar: <offramp> who wrote that column in The Times? I guess it would be Keene.
Out of curiosity, do we know when the game was first published? |
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Dec-23-16 | | offramp: <zanzibar: <offramp> who wrote that column in The Times?
I guess it would be Keene.
Out of curiosity, do we know when the game was first published?> It was certainly Keene. I do not know when this game was first published. Korchnoi's comment about Anand can be seen in more glorious technicolor at Korchnoi vs Karpov, 1981, where a bit more context is given. |
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Dec-24-16 | | zanzibar: Thanks <offramp>. Aside - I see increasing references to Kasparov's MGP these days. Which, to me, is about as good as citing wiki or even <CG> as a source. |
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Dec-24-16 | | offramp: <zanzibar: ...I see increasing references to Kasparov's MGP these days. Which, to me, is about as good as citing wiki or even <CG> as a source.> LOL. Those books are really garbage. I bought the first one and it was okay. Then I had a look sat the next one in a bookshop and lost interest. I did buy (on Kindle) the K v K series. That is good. The trouble is that lots of people have bought the entire set. It must look very impressive: 10 identically sized volumes sitting on a bookshelf. They are just not that good. Merry Christmas, Zanzibar! |
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Dec-26-16 | | zanzibar: Slightly belated wishes for a Merry Christmas to you and yours, my dear <offramp>. And a Happy, Hoppy, New Year (within reason, of course)! |
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