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| Dec-05-17 | | Retireborn: William Blake |
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| Dec-05-17 | | waustad: Wasn't the cat spelled "tyger" there, or am I thinking of something else. I probably saw it first on Ben Casey, thich dates me. |
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| Dec-05-17 | | Retireborn: I have never heard of Ben Casey. It is not English, is it. |
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| Dec-05-17 | | nevski: Great pun...it's a quotation of famous AND MARVELLOUS POEM "THE TIGER( William Blake): Tiger!Tiger! burning bright in the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye COULD FRAME THY FEARFUL SYMMETRY? |
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| Dec-05-17 | | waustad: <retire> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054519... |
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| Dec-05-17 | | waustad: It was another network's answer to Dr. Kildare. I seem to remember a pretty young woman and rabies, but details from around 55 years ago are not sharp. For that matter it might have been Kildare. |
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| May-24-18 | | Justin796: Why didn't Garry instantly move his knight to a3 on move 32? |
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Feb-02-19
 | | Clement Fraud: I am very interested in this line of the Queen's Gambit Accepted (where black develops his light squared Bishop outside of the pawn chain). Black's play in this game is so effective that I can't understand why 4... e6 (locking in said Bishop) is regarded as the main line? Also, would I be correct in thinking that Kasparov missed a win at some point in this game? Many thanks to anyone who knows. |
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| Jan-08-20 | | AliSawalha: What a brilliant attack
and a wonderful resign |
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| Jun-12-20 | | C. Auguste Dupin: Petrosian is the Houdini of chess, referring to the engine at his ( Petrosian's) best and to the ultimate escape artist ( Harry Houdini), when slightly off-colour !! |
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| Jan-27-21 | | Justin796: Fischer was in top form in 1971..but I was still surprised when he beat Petrosian 6-2...more surprised than when Fischer defeated Spassky. |
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| Jan-27-21 | | Petrosianic: Short matches are more susceptible to extreme scores, just because the person trailing has to take more chances to catch up quickly. They can't bide their time like in a Best of 24. If you look at all the Candidates Matches from around those times, 5½-2½ is the most typical score. |
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| Jan-27-21 | | Granny O Doul: The already-by-then archaic spelling "tyger" was likely chosen by Blake to justify the just-as-by-then archaic rhyming of "eye" with "symmetry". |
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| Feb-15-21 | | carpovius: Very very complicated game... |
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| Mar-23-21 | | SymphonicKnight: In "The Test of Time" Kasparov does not realize that 33.Qb1! was the best move, and was better even than 33.Na3 which he gives an !. Then 36.Rba3? just drops the Nc4, and it is game over. |
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| Apr-14-21 | | iron john: what if 20.gf and 21 qe6 ? |
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Sep-02-21
 | | HeMateMe: 35...K-c6! Petrosian defeats Kasparov with the QGA. I always thought taking the pawn was anti-positional, but I guess it depends on the opponent. |
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Sep-10-22
 | | PawnSac: < iron john: what if 20.gf and 21 qe6 ? > Interesting name, since you're inquiring about the "iron Tigran". 
click for larger viewI don't see a tactical refutation, but apart from a pawn grab, I also don't see where it does white any good. There is however a positional danger, and it's not the kind of thing a player would ever want to grant Petrosian. After 20.gf gf 21.Qe6?! black can drive the queen back with ..Nf8! 22.Qe4 f5 [opening the diagonal for the black bishop, while also stamping white's e pawn backward], then he can follow with ..g5! and pry open the g file after which he can play something like ..Rdg8 pinning the white Bg2, weakening the h pawn, and generally expose his king position to a lot of pressure. I don't think I'd want to go that direction with Petrosian, the master of positional maneuvering and long range attack. The point is.. black does not immediately win back material, but will use attack on the queen to gain tempi opening up the position, which is worth far more than the pawn sacrificed. On the grandmaster level, it would be a foolhardy grab. |
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Sep-10-22
| | PawnSac: and btw john, after 20.gf gf 21Qe6?! Nf8 22.Qe4 f5 .. < 23.Qd3 > seems the best square for the Q to keep the 2nd rank open for a defensive rook lift. Even at that, white's right flank gets very weak. I would prefer to attack than defend! lol which is probably why Kaspy looked for a better move. |
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| Jun-29-23 | | DanLanglois: Seems like Kasparov had to let a fine position deteriorate, here. If I skip over some drama, I can make the point that 31...cxb5 gives this: 
click for larger viewWhite is approaching 'won' status. It's nevertheless true that White loses. 32. Ra2 and Black should play 32...Bb6 here. Even so, it's worrisome. However, Black played 32...Kb7?: 
click for larger viewDefinitely, White is won. White can play 33. Qb1! White instead played 33. Bb4? White is still much better, though. It's good to play Qb1 'before' Bb4. Why? 33. Qb1! gives this:
click for larger view The threat, after, shall we say, 33...Qe8, is 34. Rxb5+! Note that 34. Bd5+ is also an idea, equally catastrophic. I am just showing this is possible, though, given that Black has better than 33...Qe8. Black can get that rook off of c8, to create a retreat square for the king. Thus, something like 33...Re8, or 33...Rf8 or 33...Rg8 or 33...Rh8. Not to belabor the point. But White is won anyways. |
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| Jun-29-23 | | DanLanglois: 34...Ra8 gives this:
click for larger viewWhite is much better, but blunders here, playing not 35. Ba3, for example, but 35. Qb1?: 
click for larger viewIronic -- I noted that 33. Qb1 was an idea, but the time is passed. 35...Kc6:
click for larger viewWhite's move isn't great here either. 36. Bxc7 is good for no more than equality, which is heartbreaking enough. Worse, is that it's forced, and Kasparov misses it, playing 36. Rba3?: 
click for larger view36. bxc4:
click for larger viewNow Black is winning. |
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| Jun-29-23 | | DanLanglois: <SymphonicKnight: In "The Test of Time" Kasparov does not realize that 33.Qb1! was the best move, and was better even than 33.Na3 which he gives an !. Then 36.Rba3? just drops the Nc4, and it is game over.> So I agree with all of this. Except I think it's interesting, if Kasparov wrote about 33. Na3. 32...Kb7 give this:
click for larger view33. Na3 isn't very plausible here. The b-pawn is pinned, so the knight doesn't have to move. After 33. Qb1, I was emphasizing that Black must move the c8-rook, to create a retreat square. I can append an engine line: 33.Qb1
Stockfish 15 3.47 (depth 20) Re8 34.Bb4 Qd8 35.Nb2 Rc8 36.Nd3 Bb6 37.Kh2 Rc6 38.Rba3 Nb8 39.Ne5 Qc7 40.Qb3 Rd8 41.Nxc6 Qxc6 42.Rc2 Qd7 43.Ra1 Rc8 44.Bc5 Bxc5 45.dxc5 Qc6 46.Rac1 |
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| Jun-29-23 | | DanLanglois: I see some discussion up the thread about how Petrosian messed up a perfectly defensible position after 29. Nc4:
click for larger viewThe game proceeds with 29...Bc7 30. a4 b5 31. axb5 cxb5 when Black is in just a bit of a pickle:
click for larger viewHere White played 32. Ra2, though that's not entirely accurate. 32. Na3 gives this: 
click for larger viewPlaying Na3 first is better, thus, just for example, 32. Na3 Kb7 would look like this: 
click for larger viewThen, 33. Nxb5! |
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| Jun-29-23 | | DanLanglois: So I think probably Kasparov was remarking on 32. Na3 and not 33. Na3, here: <SymphonicKnight: In "The Test of Time" Kasparov does not realize that 33.Qb1! was the best move, and was better even than 33.Na3 which he gives an !. Then 36.Rba3? just drops the Nc4, and it is game over.> |
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| Sep-10-23 | | Mathematicar: https://youtu.be/VPklrc-QFQQ?si=qeB... Video analysis of the game by Agad. |
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