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Anatoly Karpov vs John van der Wiel
"Karpov Bombing" (game of the day Jun-17-2023)
Amsterdam IBM (1980), Amsterdam NED, rd 8, Jul-05
Sicilian Defense: Richter-Rauzer. Neo-Modern Variation Early deviations (B62)  ·  1-0



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Jul-25-15  alshatranji: Wooden nickel had a similar idea, but I think the queen move is stronger after Rxf6.
Jul-25-15  patzer2: <alshatranji: What about 28.Qf3?> White wins, though it's not as strong as the game continuation.

White wins after 28. Qf3 Qxf1+ 29. Qxf1 fxe6 30. Qa6 Kf7 31. Qxd6 Rhe8 32. Nd2 Rb7 33. g6+ Kg8 34. Ne4 Rbxe7 35. Qxb4 (+5.07 @ 20 depth, Deep Fritz 14).

Jul-25-15  kevin86: The sacrifice partie turns into a brutal finish.The king's poor defender are pinned and cornered.
Jul-25-15  patzer2: If 29...Rhxe8 (diagram below),

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it's mate-in-six with 30. g6+! Kf8 31. Qf2+ Kg8 32. Rxe8+ (or 32. Qf7+ Kh8 33. Rxe8+ Rxe8 34. Qxe8+ Bf8 35. Qxf8#) 32... Rxe8 33. Qf7+ Kh8 34. Qxe8+ Bf8 35. Qxf8#.

Jul-25-15  thegoodanarchist: van der Wiel lost because he chose too many of the same moves I would have chosen.
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  Jimfromprovidence: 27...Bxb2+, assuming 28 Kxb2 fxe6, throws the puzzle into a nice alternative ending, for those interested.

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White to play and win.

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  agb2002: White has a bishop, a knight and two pawns for the bishop pair.

Black threatens Qxa6 and Kxe7.

The bishop on e6 protects f7. This invites to play 27.Rxe6:

A) 27... fxe6 28.Qxe6 (28.Qf3 Kd7 29.Qf7 Rbe8, unclear) 28... Qxa6 29.Qf7+ Kd7 30.e8=Q#.

B) 27... Qxa6 28.Rxf7

B.1) 28... Kxf7 29.e8=Q+ (29.g6+ Ke8, unclear)

B.1.a) 29... Rbxe8 30.g6+ Kg8 (30... Kf8 31.Rxe8#) 31.Rxe8+ Bf8 32.Qe6+ Kg7 33.Qf7+ Kh6 34.Rxf8 wins.

B.1.b) 29... Rhxe8 30.g6+ Kf8 (30... Kg8 31.Rxe8+ and mate soon) 31.Qf4+ Kg8 32.Qf7+ Kh8 33.Rxe8+ Rxe8 34.Qxe8 Bf8 35.Qxf8#.

B.2) 28... Rg8 29.Qf4 with the threat 30.Rf8+ Kd7 31.e8=Q+ Rxe8 32.Qf7+ looks winning.

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  agb2002: <Jimfromprovidence: 27...Bxb2+, assuming 28 Kxb2 fxe6, throws the puzzle into a nice alternative ending, for those interested.>

I considered Bxb2+ for a very short moment and forgot it even quicker. Probably because after 28.Kxb2 fxe6 29.Qf2, aiming at a7 and f7, Black looks defenseless.

Jul-25-15  alshatranji: Thank you patzer2 for the analysis. I wouldn’t want to argue with Deep Fritz, but after 28. Qf3 Qxf1+ 29. Qxf1 fxe6, the move 30. g6 is worth considering: 30 … Bh6+, 31. Nd2 Kxe7, 32. Qf7+ Kd8, 33. g7
Jul-25-15  patzer2: <alshatranji> Yes 28. Qf3 Qxf1+ 29. Qxf1 fxe6 30. g6 (+3.84 @ 24 depth, Deep Fritz 14 x 64) also wins.
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  Jimfromprovidence: <agb2002> <I considered Bxb2+ for a very short moment and forgot it even quicker. Probably because after 28.Kxb2 fxe6 29.Qf2, aiming at a7 and f7, Black looks defenseless.>

Missed that move. I was looking at 29 g6, seeing that black could exchange queens after which white could put his rook on f7 and get his knight into play.

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Jul-25-15  morfishine: <Jimfromprovidence> I too pondered 27...Bxb2+ probably for about as long as <agb2002> if not shorter, mainly because the White Knight prevents Black Queen from entering via <a3>


Jul-25-15  thegoodanarchist: <morfishine: Great finish by Karpov. I was thinking this was that great game vs Topalov Karpov vs Topalov, 1994 But then realized this was a different game>

Thanks for the link - ouch for Topa, the loser in at least two immortal games, the other beat down from Kasparov:

Kasparov vs Topalov, 1999

Maybe someone can find a spectacular beating of Topa by either Kramnik or Anand, or both, and then dub them "so and so's immortal" to heap more ignominy upon the Bulgarian GM.

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  Penguincw: 27.Rxe6 was obvious, but that's the only ply I got.

< Maybe someone can find a spectacular beating of Topa by either Kramnik or Anand, or both, and then dub them "so and so's immortal" to heap more ignominy upon the Bulgarian GM. >

Hate to go against my favourite player, but here's one great game by Kramnik: a king walk done <blindfolded>.

Kramnik vs Topalov, 2003

As for Anand, a couple of games come to my mind right away:

Anand vs Topalov, 2010 (G4) I remember when I first saw this game, I kept constantly reviewing it over and over.

Topalov vs Anand, 2010 Game that clinched Anand his title.

Anand vs Topalov, 2005 A spectacular draw by the 2 players.

Topalov vs Anand, 2005 Again, not a win by Anand, but he was able to hold Topalov to a draw despite being up in a queen ending 2 (split) pawns to zero. If Topalov had won the game, he would've started 7/7. Instead, it was "only" 6.5/7.

Jul-25-15  CHESSTTCAMPS: White has 2 pawns+N+B for a bishop pair, but black threatens Qxa6, Qxa2 and Kxe7. On the other hand, white's majors are lined up vertically towards the black king position (much stronger than the black counterparts), suggesting a breakthrough sac on e6.

27.Rxe6! gives white a quick path to victory after direct acceptance:

A) 27... fxe6? 28.Qxe6 Bxb2+ (Qxa6? 29.Qf7+ Kd7 30.e8=Q#) 29.Kd1! and black has no defense to the threat Qf7+ followed by mate.

B) 27... Qxa6 28.Qf4! Qxf1+ (fxe6+? 29.Qf7+ etc) 29.Qxf1 fxe6 30.g6! Bxb2+ (Kxe7 31.Qf7+ Kd8 32.Qxg7 Re8 33.Kd2 (not Nd2?? Re1#) is a winning endgame.

C) 27... Qxa2 28.Rxd6 Qxb2+ (or Bxb2+) 29.Kd2 - the white king is safe and white is a piece up with the threat of 30.Bb5+ forcing mate.

All I have time for - time for review.

Jul-25-15  CHESSTTCAMPS: I also considered 28.Rxf7 in line B, but didn't work it through correctly.
Jul-26-15  devere: <agb2002: <Jimfromprovidence: 27...Bxb2+, assuming 28 Kxb2 fxe6, throws the puzzle into a nice alternative ending, for those interested.>

I considered Bxb2+ for a very short moment and forgot it even quicker. Probably because after 28.Kxb2 fxe6 29.Qf2, aiming at a7 and f7, Black looks defenseless.>

27...Bxb2+ does look like Black's best try. After 28. Kxb2 fxe6 29. Qf2 Qe5+ 30. Kc1 Kd7 31. Qa7+ Kc6 Black is barely alive, but can still hope for a tactical error.

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Jul-26-15  thegoodanarchist: <Penguincw:>

Thanks for the game links! The blindfold game was just crazy.

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  Stonehenge: Photo:

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  Teyss: What a great tactician Kasparov was, full of energy and determination. Not like Karpov, solid but passive, would never have dared to launch such an attack. No, wait...

Great game, decent pun. 27.White to play was a Saturday puzzle in 2015 which seems right because of all the possible continuations (see comments above). At the end after 32...Kg7 33.Qf7+ Kh6, 34.Re6! threatens g7+ and mate. If 34...Bg7 to block the Pawn, 35.Qf4#.

One the picture posted by <Stonehenge> the lad standing on the right is Gennadi Sosonko. Anyone knows who is the one on the left? Maybe an arbiter.

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  moronovich: <Teyss>

I guess too, it is an arbiter. He doesn´t look like any of the known names from that era.

But I do remember having some great time with Van der Wiel back in 83.

Jun-17-23  Allderdice83: I'm coming to this without having seen the puzzle, just going over it as game of the day from the beginning.

White's kingside attack against an uncastled king is interesting. However, there don't seem to be any lines recommended by Stockfish where Black castles queenside. Black intends to storm White's king instead.

Black's first inaccuracy is 13 ... h5, allowing 14. g5. Instead, Stockfish 15 recommends 13 ... b4 14. Nb1 Nc4 15. Bxc4 Qxc4 +0.20.

17. Nb1 is an inaccuracy. Instead, 17. Ncb5! axb5 18. fxe5 dxe5 19. Nb3 stops up Black's pawns, and 20. Nc5 is coming. After 19 ... Bc6 20. Nc5 Qa5 21. a3 Ra8 22. Qxb4 Qxb4 23. axb4 Bxc5 24. Bxc5 Ne7 White has control over most of the board, and Black's strugging to get the knight and king rook into the game.

19 ... Nxe3 is a mistake, trading a good, outposted knight for a bad bishop. Instead, just 19 ... Ne7. Black is fine after 20. f5 gxf5 21. exf5 e5. Better is 20. Bg1 Bg7 21. Nb3 d5 22 Bc5 Ba4 23. Bxe7 Qxe7 +0.16. Still, Black has to find a lot of good moves.

Of course, 26 ... Qa5 is a game-losing blunder; Black cannot allow 27. Rxe6! Black's already in trouble, but simply 26 ... Qxe7 holds for a while; 27. Rxf7 Kxf7 28. g6+ Kg8 (not Kg6?? 29. Rxe6+ winning Q for R), 29. Rxe6 Qd7. Or 26 ... Kxe7, 26 ... Bd5, or 26 ... Be5 all keep Black in the game.

There are no good options for Black after 27. Rxf6 -- they all lose. Eg., 27 ... Qxa6, 28. Rxf7 Be5 29. Qf2 b3 30. Rxe5 Qc4 31. Rf8+ Kd7 32. e8=Q+ Rxe8 33. Rexe8 Rxf8 34. Rxf8

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  Teyss: <moronovich> Did you meet van der Wiel? Wow. Did you play a game with him?

Fun fact: "van der wiel" means "of the wheel". Well, our friend John got rolled over in that one.

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  perfidious: <Teyss....Fun fact: "van der wiel" means "of the wheel"....>

Except, of course, to Seirawan, who referred to him during a RR they played on Grand Manan as 'vidi Wiel', after his habit of signing 'v.d.Wiel'.

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  moronovich: Hi<Teyss> !

Yes, we spent some time together and did analyze a couple of games as well. Nice and easy going guy.

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